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lisa66
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 Posted: Mon Jul 4th, 2005 22:59

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Dear Kathy,
see my post above with the address and phone number of the pharmacy in Ottawa.  Ask to speak to Mary Sanger. 
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 Posted: Sun Jul 10th, 2005 13:41

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(Moved to this thread to keep the discussion of Benicar in Canada in one place)

I ordered Olmesartan in an other province of Canada. But what I don't like is that it contains some magnesium. As I react really badly to any mineral, I would prefer it contains no mineral at all. I know a compound pharmacist in Quebec. I will call him to ask if he can prepare Olmesartan. Is there something else that can be used to bind Olmesartan in the capsule (maybe I am wrong but I think that is why they added magnesium, but is it possible it is because they have to add something as it not usually sold in Canada?). I know that in the past this compound pharmacist in Quebec used lactose for an other drug that he prepared for me. Is lactose contains vitamin D or calcium? Does dr Marshall have an idea of what would be the best substance that can be used with olmesartan?

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Lucie

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 Posted: Sun Jul 10th, 2005 15:21

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Lucie,
I actually don't know what filler they are using in my capsules.  Lactose and calcium are common fillers in compounded medication.  Lactose is a sugar found in milk.  It can be a common allergen.  I take another compounded medication and the filler is Avicel. (Not sure on the spelling) I would call your pharmacy and ask them to change the filler.  Asked them about Avicel.  I think it is hypo-allergenic.
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 Posted: Wed Jul 13th, 2005 14:59

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Hi

I was informed that in Alberta and BC you do not need a doctor from that province to co-sign a prescription for ace olmesarten. The active ingredient has to be purchased by the pharmacy in large amounts consequently it is unlikely that the smaller provinces will provide this service.  If there is anyone who has obtained the olmesarten from Alberta or British Columbia could you let me know please.

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Lisa

thank you for the information about Avicel. I spoke with the pharmacist. He told me that Avicel is a kind of cellulose  (dictionnary indicates it is a dietary fiber). So I suppose it it OK. He said he already have it and it is used to fill capsules.

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For the ones who take Compound Olmesartan from Glebe, that may contain magensium, see information about Minocycline:

Taking calcium, iron, magnesium, or zinc at the same time as minocycline can decrease the absorption of both the drug and the mineral. Therefore, calcium, iron, magnesium, or zinc supplements, if used, should be taken an hour before or after the drug.
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The amount of magnesium in a typical tablet is not going to affect absorption in any way

..Trevor..

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also see FAQs Why do I have to stop taking supplements?

I thought all over-the-counter supplements were safe. Which ones should I be concerned about?

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There is a pharmacist in Montreal, Quebec, who is willing to import Olmesartan as long as it's worth doing so. Apparently, the minimum amount he can import is about $8000 CDN worth.

Currently, there are about 4 people who may be willing to purchase it from him if we have prescriptions for it. However, at roughly $200/monthly per person, that's a total of $800/monthly for all 4 people. That amount is, unfortunately, too small to make it worth his while.

If anyone is willing to purchase it from Montreal, perhaps Quebec residents in particular, please send a private message to lucie or myself.

Thanks.

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 Posted: Tue Sep 6th, 2005 20:33

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Heather,

I don't know about the legalities aspect of Benicar being sold in Canada, but you can obtain Olmesartan (active ingredient in Benicar) from the Glebe Apothecary in Ottawa.

Only issue is that they will only sell it to patients with a prescription from a doctor licensed in Ontario. However, you or your doctor may inquire about getting a doctor licensed in Ontario to co-sign the prescription. Perhaps your doctor knows another one in Ontario.

There's also a pharmacy in Montreal which may be selling Olmesartan to people - I don't know what the rules are there. If you're interested about inquiring about the pharmacy there, send me a private message.

I don't know if there is a pharmacy in Vancouver which could do the same. The pharmacies I'm referring to are known as compounding pharmacies. It seems there may enough demand in the Vancouver area for a compounding pharmacy to purchase Olmesartan and sell it there.

If you have more questions, please email me privately.

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Hello, Members

I read Wrotek's and Aussie Barb's postings (August 29, 2005) regarding ordering Benicar (Votum) from Germany.

Members, please, if any of you have ordered from inter-apotheke in Germany in the last few months, please tell me of your experiences with the ordering process, reliability, timeliness of your receipt of the product, etc. 

I want to get an order in very soon so that I can soon begin the MP.  I also want to have a 6-month "safety supply" of the Benicar before I begin!

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Larry

see Benicar for Aussies Page 3 last few posts for the most recent information..

and see BENICAR: Where to purchase Benicar for self-pay members

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Barb,

Thanks for the information.  However, the most recent information in the posting you suggested is now over six months old...

I would still very much appreciate hearing from members who have ordered their Benicar (votum) from Germany sometime since March 2005. 

In addition, are there any Canadians who have recently ordered and recieved their meds from Germany?

Regards, Larry

 



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The most recent posts in that thread posted by myself and Peter deJager are 2 days old and 1 month old.

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Barb,

NOW I GET IT!  I had printed the first 12 pages of the site, but I failed to note the 1...2...3... at the bottom of the page.  I now see the info you were referring to.  Thanks.

I'm still hoping to find out if any Canadians had difficulty importing Benicar from Germany.

Thanks again Barb,

Larry

 

 



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40mg4QD;Dec14Mino25mgQOD;Dec21=50QOD;Jan6=75QOD
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Hi Larry:

This may be of interest to you...?

Go to:
http://www.medisave.ca//RXsearch.aspx?Search=benicar 

You can purchase qty 98 - 40 mg of Benicar for $135. USD at this site. It is actually a Can. online pharmacy, and they ship it from their partners in the US. I don't know how this compares to the German price? However, it may be much easier and quicker to receive the med. It was the lowest price I could locate by viewing US and Can search results for the product - and coincidently, it is right across the Fraser River from me, here in Delta. 

The pharmacist says they need a letter from your doc stating the need for the med to clear Can. Customs.

Can. Customs stated if the letter accompanies the delivery, it will pass and there will be no fees or taxes added.

The med will be shipped via courier, and you need to find out about that cost.

Supposed to take 2-3 weeks for delivery.

Hope you find this helpful.

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Mr Bill,

Have you tried getting it from there. We had talked to another Canadian on-line pharmacy and they said we couldn't get it shipped to us even with a doc's note because it is unavailable in Canada.  I am hoping that there would be no problem with it because that is an excellent price. Thanks for posting, Paulette



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Well, to be sure, confirm things for yourself - email the pharmacist at Medisave. david@medisave.ca

Greg Blaney says Benicar is in the Canadian Pharmacy works, but doesn't know when it will clear the process.

David at Medisave said it could be shipped with a doctor's letter (not just script) specifying the requirement for the med. (Might refer to the USFDA approval)

I spoke to someone at Can Customs, who said it should clear if accompanied with the letter, and there would be no fees or taxes. You might want to follow up yourself with Can Customs giving the FDA information on the med, and if told yes, ask for a letter.

Shipping was quoted at $14. US, 2-3 weeks to Vancouver area.

I haven't done the process yet myself, as my first script isn't due for renewal yet - I'm just 20 mins away from the border and Blaine WA. So, I went across and picked up the med.

S'all I know.

Let me know how you make out.

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Larry,

If you want to order Olmesartan, there's a pharmacist in Montreal who may be willing to do so. Contact me using the private messaging about this.

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Hello all you Canadians struggling with Benicar availability

I've just ordered from Medisave.ca.  They are a company in Delta BC.  After I faxed the scrip I received a call from them stating that they needed a letter from the doc "to health Canada". They say that once they receive the letter they can ship.  When they receive your prescription by fax, they will call you. Talk to them and they will fax you a sample letter you can use for your doc to sign.  I haven't completed the process yet, stillhave to get the doc's signature (no problem) and fax it off. Time will tell how successful we are in getting the Benicar.   Cheers.



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