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Kas
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Posted: Mon Aug 13th, 2007 18:28 |
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Joyful,
To be honest with you, if there is no known case of anyone being prosecuted, I very much doubt that you are going to be the first one! If the saving is substantial to you, perhaps you should go ahead and order your Benicar from this source, just as thousands of others are clearly doing, with no repercussions.
If your doctor gives you a prescription, surely you are permitted to fill it where you wish without disclosing to anyone the whereabouts of your chosen pharmacy? It certainly does not sound illegal at all and how would your husband even be implicated on any level?
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Posted: Mon Aug 13th, 2007 20:04 |
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| Kas, I truly appreciate your concern for me and the cost of the Benicar. But I know how my husband approaches life, and worst case scenarios are always considered. He earns a decent wage and we aren't going to lose our house to pay for $228/month worth of drugs. He will lose his peace if we do anything to jeopardize his employment. And his well being is already affected by the stress of my illness. My motive is love and concern for my husband. Honestly, I never thought twice about getting medicine internationally before he brought it up. But his choice to live in peace with the regulations and laws of our land is all I need to make this decision.
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Kas
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Posted: Mon Aug 13th, 2007 20:27 |
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My sincere apologies if I in any way offended you, Joyful. It certainly was never my intention. I merely felt that you were researching this issue to get the drug at a lesser cost and that once you found out it was not illegal, that it might be to your benefit.
Of course you have to do whatever is right for you. No one here is telling you otherwise- only suggestions were made.
Best for your improvement on the MP,
Kas
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Posted: Mon Aug 13th, 2007 23:32 |
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I've have filled all of my prescriptions for the Marshall Protocol from two Canadian pharmaceutical companies for the last three years. The drugs have been the correct formula, have been delivered to my door and were less expensive than from the local pharmacy. Plus I don't have to explain to some meddling pharmacist why I'm taking Benicar three times a day.
I live in the Midwest, and the federal law is not enforced. In fact the governor of the state of Illinois said that he would not initiate any investigations for medical prescriptions sent to Illinois households from Canada.
If I get all of my other stuff from somewhere else, I don't know why I can't get my drugs from somewhere else. The official explanation of safety and purity always seemed a little hollow to me!
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Juanita
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Posted: Tue Aug 14th, 2007 16:57 |
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Evelyn, you might want to also phone the Canadian pharmacy listed at this site, Glebe Pharmacy. When we phoned several on-line pharmacies recently, Glebe Pharmacy had the best price. At the moment, I can't remember if Planetdrugsdirect was one of the companies we phoned, but I do know that we got a better price than we've heard in this discussion thread at that time. Plus, they know all about the MP so were able to help out with the whole order, eh?
The price quoted by the head pharmacist is $109 Can for 120 capsules of 40 mg benicar. They will also make up the smaller doses of minocycline at $250 Can for 250 25 mg capsules. Good luck with finding what works for you!
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eClaire
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Posted: Wed Aug 15th, 2007 22:45 |
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| Have been using the generic from India for over two months now, and it is still doing the job. I've used both the 20mg (which was yellow) when the 40mg tabs were not available, and I am now using the 40mg tabs.
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Posted: Wed Aug 15th, 2007 23:16 |
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| Where and how did you obtain the generic Benicar?
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eClaire
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Posted: Thu Aug 16th, 2007 09:33 |
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http://www.pharmawebglobal.com (a Canadian company I think). The generic is $1.09 per tablet (bought in 100 count) and the brand is $1.49 per tablet (bought in 84 count). http://www.pharmawebglobal.com/categoryDetail.html?category=2 (the page for Benicar).
I had trouble with the mail the last time and it took over five weeks for me to get the meds (it took the company 3 weeks to get my mail--must have been lost and then found in the mail). I discovered then that they have a policy to call to confirm receipt of funds (and I thought the customer service person was just being extra nice before). Had I understood that I'd have known sooner that something was wrong, as it usually takes about 3 weeks for delivery. In the future, I'm sending the funds FedEx. They take credit cards for brand, which I believe is from Canada, but require either a Cashier's check or bank transfer for the generic made in India. (Ain't no one getting my bank transfer information.)
The biggest concern I have is whether the drugs will get snagged by the US mail service/customs (and the money spent lost and so there would go the savings).
It's possible the company will provide discounts for large purchases (I received a substantial discount the last time--$150), and so the generic price above might actually be lower. For example, I paid just $.84 tab the last time. (I should note that I was not offered this substantial savings the first time; it may be that one has to become a repeat buyer.)
Claire
Last edited on Thu Aug 16th, 2007 09:45 by eClaire
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Joyful
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Posted: Thu Aug 16th, 2007 17:52 |
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I understand that, last October U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla. was working on a bill to legalize Americans buying drugs from Canadian pharmacies.
Maybe someone from his district could inquire on the status of that legislation?
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alayne
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Posted: Thu Aug 16th, 2007 20:32 |
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Well, we just ordered 360 (3 months worth) of generic Benicar from Planet drugs. I asked where the generic is made, and the store said, "the UK." I've no idea as to which particular area, but they were emphatic about the UK.
360 40mg generic Benicar tabs cost $324, including any shipping, insurance and/or tax. This puts the tabs at $0.90 each, which is a very decent savings over what we were paying - even out of Germany. However, we'll have to see if the effects are the same.
The site store does advise ordering your meds 30-40 days ahead of time, in case of hold ups, customs, etc. The average delivery time is about 15 days (according to the site).
I personally feel no guilt about ordering from Canada or any other country, as the much higher US prices are not only just aggregious, but unnecessary and unjust. I do not feel I am "screwing" a company or government by ordering a medication I need to live on that said country cannot provide at a reasonable cost - whereas others can provide without problem.
Naturally one must be careful in choosing and finding out what where the meds actually originate (i.e. wouldn't get anything from China at the moment ), so we'll definitely be comparing reactions between the generic and brand. If we notice anything different, will let you know.
Our continuing better health was started by our fighting for what we'd discovered we needed to do - the MP. The typical medical system was/is against our thoughts and feelings as to what was really going on in our own bodies and what it would take to get better. Thus, the days of agreeing with the general medical/governmental "authorities" as to who knows what's best for us (in this case) are long gone.
-Alayne & Jacks
Edit: If our opinion is deemed inflammatory or potentially damaging to the site's reputation or such (i.e: read by others than MP folks), please feel free to delete or modify.
Last edited on Fri Aug 17th, 2007 04:05 by alayne
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eClaire
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Posted: Thu Aug 16th, 2007 22:02 |
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What Alayne said!  Claire
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Evelyn RN
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Posted: Fri Aug 17th, 2007 03:13 |
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Thanks for trying this pharmacy out, Alayne. Let us know how it works out. Wishing the best of results. Thanks for your frank commentary, too.
Joyful, that would be wonderful if that bill would go through, legalizing the Canadian Rx purchasing by Americans.
I've heard from another member that if you call Costco directly, the St. Peters, MO or South St. Louis, MO it is running about (from memory) $862 for 480... four months supply (1.79 per pill). Another pharmacy in Missouri, yesterday - Kilgores of Columbia, MO quoted me a price of $634 for Benicar 40mg 360#; that's $1.76 per pill. I do not know what shipping would be. Kilgore's Medical Pharmacy - (573) 447-4444 - 1608 Chapel Hill Rd, Columbia, MO.
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Posted: Fri Aug 17th, 2007 03:51 |
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Thanks Evelyn!
After looking at Drugstore.com ... $1.90/tab--$342.65/180tab ... I am convinced I am totally overpaying at the Costco pharmacy. They seem to post different prices online and then charge more at the brick-and-mortar store. I guess I will be shopping around again! Kilgore's sounds like the best price, if you have the money up front to get that much. Sigh. Here we go again trying to help ourselves when we ourselves need help. 
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Posted: Fri Aug 17th, 2007 14:50 |
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Evelyn,
I just called Kilgore's Medical Pharmacy and learned that their wholesale price just went up two days ago. So now the best they can offer is 360 tablets for $690 ($1.92/tablet). Sure wish I had known the price was going up before it did!
The pharmacist was very friendly over the phone and seemed genuinely interested in hearing more about the Marshall Protocol. Good thing I've been studying up on this site because I was able to answer her questions about what we are using the Benicar for and why we know it is safe to use at these doses. I even got to throw around a few terms I barely understand like 'innate immunity' and 'ribosome.' (I hope she comes to marshallprotocol.com and takes a longer look.)
So, even though it is the same price as Drugstore.com, I decided to give them my business just because they were so pleasant to deal with.
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Grey Fox
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Posted: Sat Sep 1st, 2007 02:01 |
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eClaire:
Because my insurance will not pay for 40mg Benicar 4 times daily, I ordered 90 tablets of 40mg "Olmesafe" Olmesartan Medoxomil from MagicPharma.com to supplement my stock of Sanyo Benicar. The tablets are manufactured by Aristo Pharmaceuticals Pvt. Ltd. in India and come in blister card packs of 10. They have the same butter-nut odor as Benicar made by Sanyo, however they have a roundish oval shape and a rust color. Because of their different appearance, I decided to alternately take a 40mg Aristo Pharma tablet and then a 40mg Sanyo tablet at my next regular dose time to see if there was any difference in response. Within 10 minutes after taking the first Aristo Pharma tablet, I had a metallic taste in my mouth and my right calf muscle twitched for a minute or two as if the Aristo Pharma Olmesartan Medoxomil tablet was having a stronger effect than the Sanyo Benicar tablet. Every time I take an Aristo Pharma tablet it seems to consistently make me feel more fuzzy or light headed than the Sanyo tablet taken at the previous or subsequent dose time. Also once or twice a day I now have a hot flash that was not present before taking the Aristo Pharma tablet. (I am now able to sympathize with those of you that have hot flashes .) Have you noticed any difference yet in your reactions to the "Made in India" olmezest vs the Sanyo tablets?
-GF.
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Posted: Sat Sep 1st, 2007 02:06 |
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| Make sure of The right kind of Benicar
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Grey Fox
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Posted: Sat Sep 1st, 2007 02:14 |
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alayne:
I was wondering if you have received and taken any of the generic Benicar from Planet Drugs yet. If so, have you found any difference in reactions to the generic vs brand name tablets? Thanks.
-GF.
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Grey Fox
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Posted: Sat Sep 1st, 2007 02:29 |
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Barb:
According to the Olmesafe package label, it does not contain Hydrochlorothiazide.
Thanks.
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Posted: Sat Sep 1st, 2007 04:52 |
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Hi GF, someone just told me you'd written.
We haven't yet received the Planet Drugs olmesartan. There was a week of mix-ups before it was sent. It can take up to 15 days to ship. I'll post as soon as it's arrived and we've tried it out.
This one's supposedly manufactured in the UK...it'll be interesting to see if there are any differences between yours and this one.
Until then...Alayne & Jacks
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eClaire
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Posted: Sat Sep 1st, 2007 19:25 |
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Hey GF,
I order from PharmaWebGlobal and the manufacturer out of India is Cipla. (It never ocurred to me that there might be more than one manufacturer out of India, but I guess if they are reading it as a generic, there is no reason why there should not be.)
The tablets I get are round and white. I will say that when I first ordered my Benicar they were out of the 40mg and so supplied me with the 20mg (2 ea) at the same price (however, if one has a prescription for 20mg the cost is nearly the same as the 40mg). The 20mg were round and yellow and tasted sweet. I really liked those. Although my 40mg is working, I'm not certain if it is working as well as the whatever the formulation was for the 20mg, but then again, I started using it with my new mod phase 2 abx and so my doubt could be explained by that. (I have no old brand Benicar to compare it to and even no old 20mg tabs.)
In any case, I am waiting to hear of Alayne experience with her British made Benicar because the price is right and I just may switch. But overall, I think this is working and I think I'm pouting because the 20mg was so pleasant.
Sorry you've had a bad experience. Have you tried talking to MagicPharma and demanding your money back?
Claire
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