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 Posted: Thu Mar 24th, 2005 21:56

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Good Friday March 25th 8am is Day 3 after abx  Q3D  abx combo #7 dose (25mg mino +1/4 new abx) taken today.

Benicar 20mg Q3-2H day / Q6H night Q  BID...

slept well.

cough tells me when Benicar is due.. my food tastes have changed. wanting something more tangy! ... and... I have actually been feeling like eating the chicken soup again.. so that means making it.. I was able to help!! ...

and I have been able to do some tidying ... all of this is a big change, even if it isnt much and it has taken enormous effort and my back is killing me.. time to rest..

top palate and teeth aching.. and touchy tooth//

skin herxing, puffiness and gut constant.

Happy Easter!!



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 Posted: Sat Mar 26th, 2005 06:20

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Saturday March 26th 4.30pm is Day 1 after abx  Q3D 

Benicar 20mg Q3H day / Q6H night Q  BID...

quiet herx. diaphragm hit today.. fatigue. mostly able to go Q3H with Benicar..

otherwise still puffy, skin herx etccc..



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 Posted: Sun Mar 27th, 2005 10:23

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Sunday March 27th 8.30pm is Day 2 after abx  Q3D 

Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q4H night Q  BID...


Herx is quiet and very sneaky.. if I let the Benicar off to Q3H I become miserable. otherwise I can only feel some transient gut herxing and the slightly scratchy airways.. I couldnt concentrate enough to read any of the Sunday paper..

Have Grandson to stay and will be computer sharing.. hmmm....

Have had visitors, and for the first time in a very long time I felt up to getting into a dress.. *dressed* for company.. and lay on the bed to talk.. 



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 Posted: Sun Mar 27th, 2005 15:46

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Monday March 28th 1.45am is Day 3 after abx  Q3D 

This can feel like no herx most of the time..

and then the gut will hit (tolerably) for awhile. (feels a bit like I have been winded by a hit in the stomach)

but let the Benicar 20mg go over Q2H and the emotional misery quietly builds..

took 40mg Beni @ 8.30pm, and went to bed.. woke 1pm coughing silly, and full on grieving...took Benicar 40mg again, had to get up to suck cough drops to settle, and all is settling now.. all is fine.. good ole Beni...

this is easy quiet sneaky herxing most of the time. as long as I keep the Beni 20mg @ Q2H.. 40mg never lasts me the 4H, like 20mg lasts 2H..



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 Posted: Mon Mar 28th, 2005 07:18

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Monday March 28th 5.30pm is Day 3 after abx  Q3D abx combo  (25mg mino +1/4 new abx) # 8 taken now.
Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q4H night Q  BID...


feel almost herxless till Benicar is due. I can stay ok as long as I keep the Benicar @ 20mg Q2H.. otherwise cough and emotions .. gut inflammation and puffiness continue.. small transient antbite cramps.

and... where once it was my tailbone and joints that hurt from sitting... I notice now, that it is more a feeling of *the chair is hard*.. which is easier..



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 Posted: Tue Mar 29th, 2005 03:22

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Tuesday March 29th 1.30pm is Day 1 after same low dose abx  Q3D 

Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q4H night Q  BID...

Verrry sleepy.. very sneezy ... hunkering down in bed and taking Beni and Q helps keep it at bay.. in bed > numb hands, sore hips.. legs are ready to cramp so I take care as to how I move them..] I think I may have found that 2 doses of probiotics per day suppresses the esophageal reflux. teeth are all sensitive..



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 Posted: Wed Mar 30th, 2005 07:13

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Wednesday March 30th 5.30pm is Day 2 after same low dose abx  Q3D 

Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q4H night Q  BID...


Benicar need wakes me thru the night. very tired. unable physically and mentally. can still feel my airways herxing. gut inflammation. puffiness. this could be very difficult if it wasnt for a good cause.. as it is, it doesnt worry me.



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 Posted: Thu Mar 31st, 2005 10:14

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Thursday March 31st 8pm is Day 3 after same low dose abx Q3D abx combo  (25mg mino +1/4 new abx) # 9 taken tonight.
Benicar 20mg Q2-3H day / Q6H night Q  BID...


slept well last night.

slow start to the day. Benicar Q2H early in the day and to 3H later as herx seemed to lift. puffy feet may be slightly less puffy.

tonight, after abx dose, worst antbite cramp in right rib muscles and down right arm.. heat bag not very effective.  left underarm cramping too.. Heart has slight cramps transient. can feel airways but they are *ok*  with Beni.



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 Posted: Fri Apr 1st, 2005 08:24

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Friday April 1st 6.15pm is Day 1 after same low dose abx Q3D 

Benicar 20mg Q2-3H day / Q6H night Q  BID...

slept so well last night.

If I take the Beni 20mg Q3H I lag and become miserable and need to catch it up to Q2H again..

very quiet little herx? tired, teeth sensitive, and gut inflammation. puffiness is always more pronounced on the right side..  still herxy body odor. sore big toe on left (mild transient). some very mild chest cramping left side continues.

If no more herx tomorrow I will increase abx and take dose on day 2 instead of waiting till day 3.



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 Posted: Fri Apr 1st, 2005 22:29

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Saturday April 2nd 8.30am is Day 2 after same low dose abx usually Q3D abx combo  (25mg mino +1/2 new abx) increase today.
Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q6H night Q  BID...


slept well again.

Herx is mild. but I have to keep the Beni @ 20mg Q2H to control coughing.. can feel airways and teeth irritated all the time.. and slight transient cramps in heart still.

my hair: I normally have very strong thick curly hair. my hair is flatter and thinner from herx.. it is a bit of a shock.. this happened also just after I first became so very sick 24 years ago..

I intend to take the increase in abx today on day 2 as this is a bit boring.. hope it is not too much for my teeth in particular..  I think I can bear or manage anything else..



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 Posted: Fri Apr 1st, 2005 23:00

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re a question about Benicar dosing frequency:

There is a documented case of a woman who took a huge overdose of benicar and was ok.. 

my personal experience is that I find the 20mg Q2H dosing to be what I need most of the time.. and after I have slept and the dosing has been Q6H / night, I feel the need to catch up the blockade, so I take 40mg dose and dose again 20mg 3H later to catch me up.. I take it exactly as much as I feel the need.. which is often..

I have tried to extend my dosing to 20mg Q3H and the misery catches up with me later in the day (after a few doses) so I have to step the dose up for awhile to catch me up again...

The other thing that I find helpful is the Quercetin I take BID.. it seems to back up / assist the Benicar.. I can feel the cough, wheeze, tired or anxiety /  misery coming back despite just having taken the B.. so I take Q and all is well..



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 Posted: Fri Apr 1st, 2005 23:12

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adding some history here:

12 months ago, my pre MP ACNEM Dr said my PCOS, pre diabetes, hypotension, fatigue, depression, fibrocystic breasts, (estrogen dominance), (endocrine dysfunction), and much else, were a part of inflammatory disease, and very serious ..

At that stage, *they* really weren't sure of (didn't know) all the links or the root cause though.. and so were trying to treat the presenting disease symptoms with hormones and diet and supplements. This was better treatment than was available anywhere else at the time, but still of course had limited results..  and then I found MP..



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 Posted: Sat Apr 2nd, 2005 21:24

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Sunday April 3rd 7.30am is Day 1 after abx Q3D 

Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q6H night Q  BID...

slept well again. bright enough.

Herx is all mild:
scalp face: itchy/ sneezy
airways: herxy

teeth: some numbish and some achey sensitive
legs: aching ankles knees thighs.
toes: transient sore toes.
butt: feels crampish sitting, but not a cramp.



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Monday April 4th 6.30am is Day 2 after abx Q3D 

Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q6H night Q  BID...


slept well again..

Herx: is not really specific. is presenting as full body tiredness/sludginess (very).
scalp face: itchy/ sneezy
airways: herxy

puffiness continues 
skin herxing continues .. makes eyes hard to see from sometimes. blink blink to see..
teeth some sensitive
butt: feels crampish sitting, but not a cramp.



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 Posted: Mon Apr 4th, 2005 20:29

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Tuesday April 5th 5.30am is Day 3 after abx Q3D  will take abx today.

Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q4H night Q  BID...

slept well ..


Herx: was not really specific, presenting as full body tiredness / sludginess (very).


The question "am I herxing enough?" going around in my head.. "do I want to be any less able than this? .... answer is no ... am I herxing enough?" still having to take Beni Q2H..... decided that despite any *real* *obvious* herxing will keep going past Q48H into Q72H to test it out.. 

Go to bed, (had taken Beni and Q) next thing I am mentally emotionally miserable, decided to *push thru* the symptoms rather than take abx which would have suppressed it..... apart from the fact that I was busy *dealing with symptoms.. then the coughing goes to choking, to bringing up clear frothy mucus.. and then relief. slept. wheezy this am..


scalp face: itchy/ sneezy
airways: herxy
puffiness continues 
skin herxing continues ..
teeth some sensitive
transient *hit in the gut* herxing

butt: feels crampish sitting.. but not cramp
some mild numbing of top palate



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 Posted: Tue Apr 5th, 2005 20:35

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Wednesday April 6th 5.30am is Day 1 after dose # 2 abx combo  (25mg mino +1/2 new abx)  Q3D  .

Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q6H night Q  BID...

slept well.


Herx is strong lung herx. re breathing and coughing and wheezy airways. B & Q to manage. cough drops help.  Body is aching all over. all other symptoms remain the same, but no mental emotional misery yest. very tired / resting sleeping a lot.

another symptom I always forget to mention. any point pressure anywhere on me *hurts*.. it is like it is just under the skin..  and now I can feel that *hurt* in the skin of my legs as I walk..

some mild transient bone pain too..



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Thursday April 7th 7am is Day 2 after abx Q3D  .

Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q6H night Q  BID...

slept well.


herx: coughing wheezing is kept managed by Beni and Q... very tired. sleeping resting. all symptoms still the same. no misery.



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 Posted: Thu Apr 7th, 2005 21:49

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Friday April 8th 6.50am is Day 3 after abx   dose # 3 abx combo  (25mg mino +1/2 new abx) taken today Q3D  .

Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q6H night Q  BID...


slept well.

Yesterday as there seemed to be little *real* herxing, I felt that I may be able to extend the Beni 20mg out to Q3H.. and I could do it for that one dose, and then not long after, I needed to catch up again.. this is happening any time I try to extend to Q3H or even to Q2 and a half H. The herx is managed well at Q2H, so that is that..

The herx is still cough wheeze sneeze itch mainly but is being controlled by the Beni and Q. all other symptoms continue. no misery. gut inflammation is stepped up again today. I can feel the need for the Beni before Q2h.

scalp face: itchy/ sneezy
airways: herxy
puffiness continues 
skin herxing continues .. hair tone has improved again.
teeth more sensitive
transient *hit in the gut* herxing. occasional transient pain.

antbite cramps: hard. occasional.
fatigue
butt: feels even more crampish sitting.. but not cramp

Toes fingers bones: occasional aches and pains
some mild numbing of top palate/ nose


My ability to get up and down from sitting is better and as that is my only exercise so far that is a good improvement.



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Saturday April 9th 9am is Day 1 after abx  Q3D  .

Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q6H night Q  BID...

slept well recently. ie. I remembered that I used to always wake up at 2am or similar thru the night and am now sleeping till Beni time and sometimes after again..


Herxing is mainly *hit in the gut* herx.. gut inflammation is high..  can still feel the airways herx but all managable with Q & B.. herxy body odor has risen.. puffiness is slightly more.. all other symptoms the same.. no mental emotional misery for a few days!



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Sunday April 10th 7.30am is Day 2 after abx  Q3D  .

Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q6H night Q  BID...


slept well..

same report as yesterday, but felt physically worse.. body is working hard. Herxing is mainly *hit in the gut* herx.. gut inflammation is high..  can still feel the airways herx but all managable with Q & B.. herxy body odor has risen.. puffiness is more.. all other symptoms the same.. (see prev postings) no mental emotional misery for a few days!



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