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Posted: Sun Apr 10th, 2005 19:58 |
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Monday April 11th 8am is Day 3 after abx Q3D .
Benicar 20mg Q2-3H day / Q5-6H night Q BID...
slept not so well..
herxing is managed to tolerable with B & Q.. lung herxing seems to be settling! still herxy airways but less..
have been able to extend the occasional dose of B out to 3H yesterday. still herxy odor and puffiness and fatigue, other symptoms still the same, so body is working hard.. all good..
recently my jaw aches just from talking on the phone!! some gland ache too at the moment..
re itch and sneezy and aches in big toe and toes and fingers, see Amygdala Link... re brain herxing healing..
My taste is changing yet again.. I am *able* to eat an apple again.. I couldnt 'bear to' for so long..
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Posted: Mon Apr 11th, 2005 17:19 |
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Tuesday April 12th 5.30am is Day 2 after abx dose # 4 abx combo (25mg mino +1/2 new abx) taken yesterday Q3D .
Benicar 20mg Q2-3H day / Q6H night Q BID...
slept well till 3am Beni. got up..
Lung herx is less, but still there.. it is a relief to have less wheeze cough.. the gut is herxing more.. *hit in the gut* feeling, and diaphram and other pain.. eased by B. all other symptoms continue same.
my body is working hard.. so I have no strength to stand or walk around other than the necessary... I am content, and happy to be on the MP adventure....
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Aussie Barb
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Posted: Tue Apr 12th, 2005 04:29 |
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Tuesday April 12th 4.30pm is end Day 2 after abx Q3D .
Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q6H night Q BID...
Gut herx all day.. very tired.. all happening.. big toes get quite achey..
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Posted: Tue Apr 12th, 2005 15:22 |
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Wednesday April 13th 3.30am is almost Q48H after abx @ Q72D .
Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q5H night Q BID...
woke for Beni.. could feel lung herx.. coughing choking again... got up. cough drops.. am ok..
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Posted: Wed Apr 13th, 2005 23:02 |
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Thursday April 14th 11.00am is Day 1 dose # 5 abx combo (25mg mino + 1/2 new abx) today Q72H .
Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q6H night Q BID...
slept well.
herx continued tolerably for 3 days. the abx this a.m. relieved the escalating lung herx. hips and legs aching soon after the abx.
Has been a very tired bed hugging herx this last time.. other transient symptoms same. toes quite achey.
somewhere under the herx I think I sometimes feel a little *Life*.. it cannot be called *energy yet..
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Posted: Thu Apr 14th, 2005 08:30 |
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Thursday April 14th 8.30pm is Day 1
Benicar 20mg Q2H
herxing strongly but tolerably.. more diaphragm pain. took milk thistle with relief. tired.. am ok, then I am easily *fragile*.. other herx symptoms same..
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Posted: Fri Apr 15th, 2005 09:34 |
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Friday April 15th 9.30pm is Day 2 after abx. taking abx Q72H
Benicar 20mg Q2-3H day / Q6H night Q BID...
airways herxy, neck and head pressure.. body herxy sluggish. had a day off. slept between Q2H Benicar alarms. Big toe achey and numbish.
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Posted: Sat Apr 16th, 2005 22:08 |
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Saturday April 16th Benicar 20mg Q3H day / Q6H night Q BID... probiotic BID milk thistle once daily for abdo pain.
fatigue & sludginess. while sitting still, thinking of maybe increase abx? walked from bedroom to kitchen.. whoa.. body is working hard.. herxing well.. rethink..
lung herx 11pm. settled by B & Q and cough drops.. slept well..
Sunday April 17th 10.00am is Q72H dose # 6 abx combo (25mg mino + 1/2 new abx) today
note extension of Benicar 20mg to Q3H day ! / Q6H night Q BID...
under the herx there is a subtle feeling of more Life? only small yet.
slept well. other herx symptoms same: I will list them for others who wish to understand or recognise their herxing symptoms..
scalp face: itchy/ sneezy at times
itchy inflamed wet ears
Blurry itchy eyes
very small flashes coming from the bottom / side of eyes
teeth sensitive
acute sense of smell
some mild numbing of top palate/ nose /lip
esophageal herxing: also involves swallowing a bubble of air at times, when swallowing water eg.
chest airways: herxy coughing to choking
hands feel as if in water for too long.. and are not wet..
skin herxing continues ..
underarms itchy
herxy body odor
mild chest crampy Heart area, goes down arm.
antbite cramps on rib muscles and down arm: hard. very occasional. relief by heat bag.
transient *hit in the gut* herxing.
gut inflammation continuous
diaphragm / liver herxing
fatigue sludginess
butt: feels crampish sitting.. but not cramp
hips thighs knees ankles legs ache in bed
Toes fingers bones: occasional aches and pains
Big toes strongly achey
puffiness (noticable on feet) continues
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Posted: Sun Apr 17th, 2005 23:28 |
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Monday April 18th Day 2 Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q4-5H night Q BID... probiotic BID milk thistle once daily for abdo pain.
Re: note extension of Benicar 20mg to Q3H yesterday ! >>
alas the need for Benicar more often has caught up with me.. ! lung herxing last night and liver diaphragm pain this morning... so taking the Benicar 20mg Q2H and the milk thistle to try to get back to tolerable again..
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Posted: Mon Apr 18th, 2005 15:26 |
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re Lung herx Question:
I have been on Benicar 20mg Q2H for almost 3 months to keep the lung herx managable.. + the Quercetin helps as a necessary backup to the Benicar. if I try to take B Q3H, is not enough to control it.
what is it like? like a wheezy, tickle, hottish *irritable airways, that develop into a cough or choking if not nipped in the bud soon enough.. can be worse when I lie down at night. if it gets to chokey, I make sure to have taken all meds and also use cough drops to help..
The meds are the best management tool.. keeping them right keeps it all managed..
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Posted: Mon Apr 18th, 2005 17:01 |
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Tuesday April 19th Day 3 Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q4H night woke me. Q BID... probiotic BID milk thistle TID yesterday for abdo pain.
My body did not like the Q2H Benicar idea at all, so I had some catching up to do yesterday.. with quite some liver pain, which the Milk thistle, B & Q all helped in their own spaces.. the coughing had increased too, and the meds are settling that as well...
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Posted: Tue Apr 19th, 2005 09:36 |
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Tuesday April 19th Day 3 9.40pm dose # 7 abx combo (25mg mino + 1/2 new abx) today due Q72H but taken Q60H ish
Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q4H night woke me. Q BID... probiotic BID.. milk thistle TID today again for liver discomfort.
Today was like suspended animation.. I'm not going to try Q72H between abx again at the moment.. I become so *suspended* that I dont go and take the abx I need to take to get me out of it..
herxy airways tonight.
no color in my face yet.. My nails are very strong and no cracked heels..
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Posted: Wed Apr 20th, 2005 06:12 |
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Wednesday April 20th Day 1 6pm
Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q4H night woke me. Q BID... probiotic BID.. milk thistle once daily today for liver discomfort.
my brain is half asleep today still and I have had a nice visitor... a friend I hadnt seen since 1970... I wasnt like she remembered me.. but ahh well, I am still here! and I'm doing MP!
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Posted: Wed Apr 20th, 2005 19:01 |
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Thursday April 21st Day 2 7am abx due tonight. Q48H
Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q4H night woke me. Q BID... probiotic BID.. milk thistle once daily.
herx is alive and well.. woke coughing for Benicar. blurry itchy eyes. ears wet itchy inflamed. itchy skin, scalp, underarms. nausea. gut inflammation. hard antbite cramps under and down right arm and very mild and fairly constant in Heart area . other herx symptoms continue..
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Posted: Wed Apr 20th, 2005 19:13 |
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Barb's timer tips..
see Aussie Barb uses: TIMER LINK My Digital electronic timer can be found in the cooking section of the Big Stores.
I keep the pill case with the days half tablets in; the timer; and a bottle of water together near me at all times.. ..as I take my Benicar 20mg Q2H..
timer rings for 60 seconds I think: I hit *stop switch. 2 pings to *hour switch (to set for 2H) and 1 ping to *go switch. Take Benicar. can do it in the dark.
and so any time I look at the timer I know how long till the next Benicar is due.. and when it is close to due, I start coughing anyway..
and I keep a track of the abx due time by looking at my Progress thread on MP.com.. or I used to write a note..
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It is usually best to have enough Benicar for Q6 hour dosing or more. Q8 dosing leaves no room for error.
It is good to if you are able to listen to your body and learn to use Benicar as needed. During a 'crisis' situation, an extra 20mg of Benicar may be taken sublingually with or between each three or four hour oral Benicar dose. This is especially important for folks who have GI tract inflammation.
I set my alarm for 6H each time I take the 40mg Benicar. and if I do need to take it before, so be it... I reset it.. if not, it is right for the 6H. 
Have a dosette and reliable alarm system.
Always carry spare meds (and water) with you.
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Posted: Thu Apr 21st, 2005 18:57 |
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Friday April 22nd Day 1 7am dose # 8 abx combo (25mg mino + 1/2 new abx) today taken Q60H ish
Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q6H night Q BID... probiotic BID..
Stomach herx. nausea. some salivating. esophageal discomfort continues. gut inflammation. lung herx continues.
I keep all to tolerable using the meds as above.
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Posted: Fri Apr 22nd, 2005 05:46 |
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I looked back at some of my earlier posts, and I could see how I was in a hurry to extend the antibiotics dosing from the Daily that was all I could tolerate..
and extending was only able to happen once I added the 2nd antibiotic.. and then I increased the dose and had to decrease it again..
The focus can tend to be on how and when to increase abx.... on being goal oriented..
I have now found the day to day focus of the MP to be in managing the dosing and frequency of meds to achieve the Goal of safe and tolerable bacterial killing / herxing on the day.
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Posted: Sat Apr 23rd, 2005 01:32 |
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Saturday April 23rd Day 2 1.30pm
Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q6H night Q BID... probiotic BID..
chest / airways herxy. gut. sleeping a lot.
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Posted: Sun Apr 24th, 2005 14:54 |
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Sunday April 24th Day 3
Benicar 20mg Q2-3H day / Q5H night Q BID... probiotic BID..
herx chest. fatigue++. sleeps rest. full body fatigue/ herx all day..
Monday April 25th Day 1 3am abx due Q72H this am.
Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q5H night Q BID... probiotic BID..
no liver pain so no milk thistle x 3 days. more fatigue. more night waking. full body fatigue/ herx.
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Posted: Mon Apr 25th, 2005 05:28 |
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Monday April 25th Day 1 5.30pm dose # 9 abx combo (25mg mino + 1/2 new abx) today taken Q72H
Benicar 20mg Q2H day / Q4H night Q BID... probiotic BID..
lung and gut and body herx continues. all tolerable. tired..
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