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Aussie Barb
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Posted: Tue Aug 3rd, 2004 23:17 |
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Happening already progress in the dark
I am only as far as the darkening/ cutting down D... for 2 to 3 weeks, so I don't fit into the Progress reporting pages yet.. no meds yet.
It is happening..being out of the sun.....cutting down D..... my immune system IS working on the bacteria.
and now with this happening, - am anxiously waiting for my Benicar to come from Germany.
I can see why ppl think the sun makes them feel better. I can see how ppl mis-take this feeling worse / depressed,..........in winter /darkness, for GETTING worse.
yes I am moving into the *worse* category that Dr Marshall expects us to feel with the dieoff happening.
I am starting to feel the toxic signs of the dieing off of the bacteria..
I have the (my pre MP. ie. previously experienced) toxic signs (subtle yet, compared to full blown herx) but otherwise not subtle at all....
depressed/misery, sick stomach feel, bloated, low bowel motility, pressure in my bottom...
I am wanting the Benicar here asap now to help with this.
I may not need to commence the antibiotics very soon if my system is going to work like this... without the abx help. (they may escalate the killing too quickly for my body to cope with anymore toxin> herx)
I am a Brave Warrior. I have been in training  I am doing THIS!!!
best wishes to all including ME
B
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Aussie Barb
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Posted: Wed Aug 4th, 2004 02:59 |
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another thing I have noticed is that I am more clear headed this last couple of days. able to articulate incoming info and output that I was too addled to handle before.
I was very easily overwhelmed.
I am conscious of brain inflammation information here. relating to it's causing depression/ misery.
If the relationship between the bacteria dieoff & inflammation - is
the inflammation decreasing as bacteria dieoff takes place,
that would explain my clearer head. and body function should therefore increase which is what others are saying!!!! YAYYYY!!! I am getting it.....
it is happening..
I am a good little mushroom. growing well
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Aussie Barb
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Posted: Wed Aug 4th, 2004 04:51 |
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Having had exposure to light yesterday, I had a lifting of bacteria dieoff toxic symptoms for awhile. a once called *relief*.
here I am now, at a point of gladly welcoming the return of the symptoms - knowing that they mean that the MP is at work within me.... amazing how new knowledge can change the perspective......
Shall we wish each other *GoodNight* now? or should it be *BadNight* for a while yet?
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Aussie Barb
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Posted: Fri Aug 6th, 2004 01:06 |
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I found a/several liver cleanse recipes here and yahoo and used it for myself....
cut up a full lemon: and 1 cup water and quarter cup olive oil or any edible oil. (small amt ginger, honey. (optional)
in blender.
strain.
like lemon milk.
can be taken morning and night as desired or required.
my experience of this was that it cleared my toxic symptoms ie emotional fragility, gut.
cleared them well for all night.
I am not herxing bad yet, still only in the dark, off the D exposure - but I have tried this now, tested my sensitivity, -nil, so I have it in my *bag of tricks*
thanks to all who contributed to this knowing. xx
B
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Posted: Fri Aug 6th, 2004 07:31 |
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Barb, just wanted to say that your posts are a real pleasure to read - a wonderful sense of humor and self-awareness.
I am inspired by your example. I have a 'difficult' doctor that I am more or less stuck with at the moment but hope to persuade him and start the MP soon.
I hope your MP experience continues to be positive, and look forward to reading your posts here.
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Posted: Fri Aug 6th, 2004 07:56 |
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Thank you Paulscha
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Have I made an amazing discovery? 
or is this a *One off*
I had my lemon cleanse last night.... and today I have not been hungry...
and I mean, like, a BIG difference to usual.
IF it IS so, it may be explained as "the need to eat is to move the toxic bile along"???
and the lemon mixt has certainly kept me feeling *nicer* today
I will be watching to see.. 
I also feel that the reduction of exposure to Sun / light has reduced the inflammatory tendencies of my body. am I shrinking ?? hope so.
Let me know what you experience? thanks, B
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Posted: Fri Aug 6th, 2004 09:07 |
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"I found a/several liver cleanse recipes here and yahoo and used it for myself.... "
Barb,
Did you see the two concoctions posted at "Treating the Herx"? They are very similar to yours, only a lot less oil.
http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum11/268.html
It seems that it's prob a good idea to have lemons on hand!
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Posted: Sat Aug 7th, 2004 22:52 |
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This last couple of days I have less emotional fragility than is usual,  (always a good thing)
less need for the natural progesterone spray to uphold me !!!
so I am not sure if this is due to the darkness or the lemon drink.. 
I will keep watch to see what I can learn.
best wishes, B
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Posted: Sun Aug 8th, 2004 06:15 |
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I would like to say... I have been feeling ALOT better in the past couple of weeks, and have NOT tried the lemon drink.
The only changes I've made are cutting back on Vit D supps, foods and sunlight!
I'm sleeping better and taking alot less pain meds. I've also noticed my CFIDS sore throat that I haven't had in years, has waxed and waned and I get what feels like the beginning of herpes, but no sore... just the nerve pain, then it goes away.
I think my body's fighting something off by these symptoms just from the lessening of Vit D!
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Posted: Sun Aug 8th, 2004 07:28 |
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 I have been in a social situation today, and I have been handling it as I have not handled anything for ever so long...
I was out of bed at 4 am, travelled 3 hours to visit our Family; and yess, I was covered with my black material to protect me from the light. Imagine what the passing traffic thought!!!
I was able to help get the lunch ready, participate in the conversation, and I washed the dishes after the lunch..
all of this has been done with ease.. and once I would have been hiding away in the bedroom to survive..
and now we are home again; having travelled back with me covered by the black I will still have had more exposure to light than I wanted, but that's Life.
I think back to first cutting the exposure to D, and feeling worse... oops? and now I feel so much better.
All of this week I have been so articulate I hardly know MySelf!
I am feeling more confidence, and happier than I have for a long time
sigh....
Thanks, & Best wishes to us all xxx
B
PS. I am due to go to the Dr Tuesday to get my blood results. and to buy my sphygmo... and then we will see about moving to the meds step.
Last edited on Sun Aug 8th, 2004 12:02 by Aussie Barb
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Posted: Sun Aug 8th, 2004 23:50 |
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Exposure to the Light made a difference!
This effect without even being on the meds yet.
I was expecting that it would take a long time for me to feel any difference re exposure to D, because I suspect that I may have large stores????
I have been pleased to stay in my darkened indoors; not at all wanting to be exposed to *any light.
Yesterday I ventured out into the World, (as per previous post)
I protected myself, to what some would seem an extreme. I was completely under my piece of Black Material, (as it is so far) with my sun protective glasses on, for most of the travelling..... and in the house I wore the glasses and swathed in the cloth.
I felt so good (ie comparitively not that I was going to do the vacuuming or anything but I was getting to the point by the time we left that I had to consciously remind myself that I am NOT better, NOT *normal*, I DO have to keep protected.
When I went to bed, ooooooooooooooooooooo......... I was so restless, an *uptight* feeling; and my Heart started to feel strained. It took quite some time and some of my NPS to settle me.
I had this same effect a week ago when I went out to have my blood tests taken... I wasn't even out long, but oohh the lights in those places!!! 
This is NOT payback as in post exertional malaise... no this is different.
It is amazing to me to see the new changes we are experiencing.. changes from things we have taken for granted. and others still ARE taking for granted, and they don't want their beliefs shattered.
the *other* *real* payback may also show up yet... ?? but meantime I am staying battened down as much as I can
PS. I notice that my brain is not as good as it has been. and I can feel the inflammatory changes back in my body. not nice.
But.... it is all good in demonstrating the effects this way and that way.
Last edited on Mon Aug 9th, 2004 04:44 by Aussie Barb
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Posted: Thu Aug 12th, 2004 01:20 |
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I was One who believed in, and loved being in the Sun; but the doing of this for MP has shown me by experience what a good difference once I have cut the exposure properly.
It is a month since I started to reduce D exposure re sun / light, diet, supplements ceased.
I went thru a herx like stage: ^ see above posts:
where, I believe, My Own Immune System was then able to kill the *accessible bacteria, reducing some inflammation, and then my head cleared: and then I have gradually been picking up, - in that I am capable of *doing* a few things. feeling more *normal*.
( I hasten to add here, that I actually have no comprehension at all of what *well* may feel like, to even to aspire to it. Luckily I have an Inner Drive that propels me forth... zoooooommm
In amongst the improvement, the release of chokey mucus in my throat was increasingly becoming a problem. tickley cough cough cough.
The Benicar came from Germany. info@inter-apotheke.de : and I have my blood results. Rx needing MP asap.
I was waiting on the blood pressure machine. BUT
This morning is Thursday. If I don't start today, while I will have 2 days of access to my Dr before it is the weekend I will have to wait till Monday. and I don't want to be waiting any longer.
I have taken my first Benicar Tablet, and after 20 mins could feel drawing on my sinus and the cough eased.
I am going to take it easy till I see what else is going to happen.
All is well so far. The Benicar is to make the bacteria accessible for My Immune System to kill. I expect that I will know about it once those bacteria are dying.
But along with the bacteria dying, the inflammation will be decreasing. Happy Day
I have my timer set to have my next Benicar in 6 hours.
See you on the progress reporting page if all continues ok ... who knows, it is all 1 minute at a time feeling my way along here.
Best Wishes to us all,
Last edited on Thu Aug 12th, 2004 04:10 by Aussie Barb
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Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2004 07:41 |
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NB Big News:
Except for the initial *feeling worse* since staying in the dark;
Now I'm Not Suffering Depressive misery or fragility that I had continually suffered Pre MP in the sun / light days..
I hadn't known the sun was making me sicker. I just loved it's warmth.
I'm perfectly happy to do whatever it takes; and it's also good to know that once I'm out of this, I can go out ok again too.
Barb
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