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LisaN1971 Member in Phase 3

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Posted: Tue Aug 15th, 2006 03:00 |
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Invasion of the Body Snatchers. That’s what it feels like having Th1 and seeing the insanity going on around the world. The latest issue of Reader’s Digest came out this week and in it is an article about Vitamin D being the wonder vitamin. I love reading every article in the Reader’s Digest because I generally find useful information, heart wrenching stories of survivors of almost anything, anger inspiring stories from the “That’s Outrageous” column, and humor from the various mini articles. This month I’ve kept throwing the durn thing down because I keep coming across that Vitamin D article. It annoyed me to no END. The last time I threw it down an idea sparked in my head about how this is like the movie, Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
From what I’ve learned so far while being on the Marshall Protocol and from others at the 2006 Conference in LA, these critters/bugs/bacteria/creatures/alien invaders are in my brain. Yes, I have other Th1 influenced symptoms with arthritis and fibromyalgia, but they are mostly in my brain. For most of my adult life, as a result of the invaders in my brain, I’ve made some pretty stupid decisions and “let myself go.”
I’m not a stupid person so for the life of me I couldn’t figure out why I’d make these decisions. I’m specifically talking about relationships. At the beginning of these relationships I knew, call it a sixth sense or a bad vibe or a message from the Source, that these relationships would fail because these weren’t the right people with whom I should be associating in marriage or friendship. Yet, twice I made bad decisions. I got out of the marriage before it was too late (had kids, etc.) and the damage wasn’t too bad. I didn’t get out of the other relationship in time and it ended badly. I was homeless and left in increased doubt of myself and the world as a whole. The endings of both relationships really gave the aliens a foothold to increase activities of depression, low self-esteem, self-doubt, etc. Fortunately, I’ve inherited strength that kicked me in the arse to not give in to hopelessness or to give up on myself.
I made a comeback and restarted another relationship with a friend. Fortunately, the bugs are unaware of the Universe and the Source as a whole and the influence it can have on those of us who pay attention to the messages we get from it. This friendship led to a deeper relationship of mutual attraction and appreciation of the other on several levels. One of those levels, for me at any rate, was one of intelligence. When I got to know Gary again I was unaware of this “disease” he had: Sarcoidosis. He may have mentioned it in passing, especially how he’d been in hospital for it, but he was obviously not letting it get the better of him and he was fairly active. I thought little to nothing of it, not even enough to go research it online, especially since he didn’t seem phased by it.
A few months down the road he tells me about the Marshall Protocol and how people who’ve got Sarc are improving and “curing” themselves of it. I think, cool, he’s found something that will help him out and makes him feel better. Even better, he took control of his disease and is doing something about it himself, rather than let the doctors dictate how he’s supposed to “live” with the disease. I’m all for someone who is not passive about himself and his health.
A little more than a year down the road of him being on the Protocol, he informs me that he believes I have Th1. I had actually thought that Sarc and Th1 were the same thing, not that the Th1 Inflammatory disease was a disease having symptoms that our health system has been calling diseases and disorders and syndromes. I listened respectfully and then pretty much ignored it for quite a while.
I’m a logical thinker with a nice balance of emotions and Spiritual beliefs. I knew that I didn’t have Sarc. I may have gone to the website a time or two, but it seemed to be directed at those who had much more serious problems than me: Sarc, CFS, fibromyalgia, even diabetes and Lupus. I didn’t have any of those. Sheesh, the only disease I seemed to have was Hypothyroidism and that didn’t seem to be one of the ones I found at the site. I also have been depressed in my life, but I dealt with it, we all seem to in this day and age. So I just nodded and smiled and said we’ll see. However, Gary can be pretty persuasive, especially since he really likes to use logic and that’s pretty much the only way anyone is going to persuade me into trying anything.
He used both of these as proof, as well as my lack of energy and motivation, that I had the Th1 Inflammatory disease. I agreed to do a probe with the Benicar and the minocycline. If I reacted, then we knew I was infected, too. I remained a skeptic, but I agreed to go along with it to make him happy. I reacted. Bang, here I was affected by some unknown disease that my doctor didn’t even believe I could have. I had mentioned it to him because Gary asked me to and I wanted my doctor’s take on it. (I did a lot of the stuff early on just because Gary asked me to and I thought I was just humouring him at the time.). I didn’t have the right information and was still calling it Sarc at the time, so of course my doc didn’t agree with Gary. But, I had reacted.
Now, I don’t have to be slapped with a fish more than once to believe that I’m sitting in a fishing boat. I went back to the website and did more research. I was born in California but raised via Missouri standards: show me! I was shown. I looked up the list of “How do I know if I have Th1 or not?” I started ticking them off to myself and realized, crap, I’m in some deep kimchi here! I researched more and humbly told Gary, ok, yeah, you’re right. Now what?
I got on the Protocol. I tried talking to my doctor, but my earlier fuzzy thinking and description had started me off on bad footing for trying to get my doc on board with my going on the Protocol. He insisted that my arthritis and high blood pressure were due to my weight, just lose the weight and I’d be healthy again. Yeah, ok, fine. I already knew that! Unfortunately, I’ve been trying to lose weight all my adult life! I couldn’t. I had let myself go and figured I was beyond hope for losing weight. I would try and succeed for a little while, but then I would get lazy, or lack the energy to exercise and eat “right” and be right back where I started, if not at a higher weight. I asked Gary to come to a doc appointment with me to lend some logic and experience to the argument.
We literally backed my doctor into a corner to write the prescriptions to put me on the Protocol. He was afraid that the 4 times a day of the Benicar would lower my blood pressure to an unhealthy amount, however he’d already humoured me and given me some free samples of the stuff which I’d been taking on a regular basis and my blood pressure was fine. So, he justified my needing to be on the Protocol by diagnosing me with one of those “syndromes” that is difficult to diagnose but was indicated on the Protocol: fibromyalgia. He didn’t think the insurance I had at the time would agree to pay for my meds on just the basis of the Osteoarthritis he’d already diagnosed.
So here I was, one of the diseased. Little did I think at the time that I’m one of, oh, most of the population of the world! When Gary mentioned to me he believed I had it, he’d also look at other people and claim that they had it, too, based on the redness of their eyes, the way they would perspire profusely, the red spots on their skin, the way they walked with arthritic knees and/or feet, etc. During that time I just good-naturedly agreed and “humoured” him. Now, I’m doing it.
I have to admit that I still had some doubts about how many of these alien invaders had crept into my brain. Ok, fine, the depression and lack of motivation/energy were due to the aliens being embedded in my brain. I wasn’t like Gary. He wasn’t fat, depressed, lacking energy and motivation. Granted, by this point he was coming upon his two-year anniversary of being on the Protocol. I didn’t see the connection between his symptoms and mine. Sure, he’d said he’d had the lack of energy and motivation as herxes while on the Protocol, but I hadn’t seen them for that at the time because they seemed to be “explainable” by other reasons: long drive, good meal, exercise, etc. By this time I’d moved in with him and since I’d been living with him I saw pretty much the same sorts of episodes: explainable. Then we went to the conference.
At the conference, there were others who’d lived a lifetime like mine with the depression, inability to lose weight, etc. Dr. Blaney got up and spoke about his having the disease and how he started questioning some of the decisions he’d made in life because he was under the influence of these aliens being in his brain. It was like a wake up call to me. I got angry at the little invaders! They had been the cause of my making big and little decisions that were stupid, from the bad relationship decisions to the deciding to go ahead and have dessert after dinner. Not only were they affecting me personally, but they were ingrained in our society.
Discussion went around that weekend about how the FDA and the current medical system believe that Vitamin D is necessary to our health. I’d since learned that Vitamin D is BAAAAAD for me and here are people we are supposed to trust pushing it like a freakin’ drug! Yeah, I was extremely peeved. But, as life gets in the way I have a tendency to let things sit on a back burner for awhile. I didn’t fume over this anger, I just let it rise up as a minor annoyance with society and thinking to myself that we (MPers) need to give it time. We can present the validity of the Protocol as a cured united front sometime in the future.
Unfortunately, for me, I apparently am not always given to just sitting back and accepting life as it is. I have to react. Sometimes I react subtly, like trying to get my friends to see how they are infected and giving them information about the Protocol to help themselves. Now, I’m reacting and lashing out in the best way I feel is best for me: I write.
As I stated earlier, I had been reading the Reader’s Digest and kept coming across the Vitamin D article and getting more and more annoyed and angry. I couldn’t read it because I knew it would fuel the flames. Instead, I realized that our country and the world is infected BIG time. It’s especially noticeable in the incredibly asinine decisions made by world leaders, government officials, doctors, oh sheesh, pretty much everyone who has a modicum of power.
These alien invaders have taken control of the minds of the world and seem to be subtly pushing their own agenda via encouraging laziness and hysteria, encouraging the eating of high carb diets, and especially in the medical and US government system of pushing Vitamin D. We must have vitamin D. It will help with the retention of calcium. It will make you feel better. Get out in the sun! Tanned people look better and healthier than pale-skinned people. Blah blah blah blah BLAH!!!
We have been invaded and are being controlled by not only body snatchers, but MIND snatchers! It feels like we on the Protocol are like a last ditch effort that God/ the Source/the Universe/Allah/Yahweh/Goddess/ULEK/THE Higher Power has tossed into the fray to bring enlightenment to battle these invaders!! I say, hooray!! Bring it on! Let’s fight this fight and get rid of these invaders. Let’s rid the world of Th1-induced stupidity!
At the conference and sometimes on the MP boards, we joke about what life will be like in 20 years with people finally getting on the Protocol and becoming cured. Most doctors and pharmaceutical companies will be out of business. Advertising will take a whole different direction. People won’t get cancer anymore. It all sounds so wonderful. Those of us who’ve been on the MP and are surviving without the invaders will be able to help those who are in the midst of it.
Maybe I’ve got Th1-induced pessimism, but I have my doubts about how quickly, if at all, the Marshall Protocol becomes mainstream and accepted. Will the world, or even our own country, actually accept it? Will they look at Dr. Marshall as a savior of human health and sanity? Or will the pharmaceutical companies and doctors who are currently making SO much money off of the status quo have their way and “debunk” Dr. Marshall’s research? Will we survivors, and those we are able to convince, be such a small minority that we fade away and outlive the idiots – only to continue to have to live in a society that thinks we’re the insane ones? Will we live such long lives that in 50 or 75 years, someone finally wakes up from the invaders and sees us living healthy and active lives at the age of 150 and try to figure it out? I truly hope it doesn’t take that long.
I’m going to keep fighting the good fight and trying to convince my friends and family and hopefully, via an underground movement, get this thing accepted by enough people that majority overcomes stupidity.
____________________ DX--Hypothyroid (1/02) Osteoarth, depression, fibromyalgia; Vits & Supps: Calcium, D-congestants; D tests (inconclusive); avoiding light: NoIRs, gloves, hat; Beni 09/05 Q6H, mino 09/05; phase 2 1/06; mod phase 2 5/06; full phase 3 08/08
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Posted: Tue Aug 15th, 2006 04:12 |
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Bravo, Lisa! I was ready for bed, but now I'm energized! 
I like your attitude and enthusiasm! Your writing tells it all--from your head to your toes, but especially from your soul! Keep writing and fighting for the cause, and hopefully your pessimism will be short-lived!
Best wishes to you and Gary as you become Th1 survivors! Take care! . . . Carole 
____________________ PWC 50+ yrs| 20+ CFS FM Pituitary Thyroid IBS Cardiac OA Migraines +ANA Osteoporosis 2/04 Mediastinoscopy ~Sarc Story |1/04 1/06: 125D=85,34; 25D=41,14| AC
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Julia Member in Phase 3

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Posted: Tue Aug 15th, 2006 10:12 |
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Lisa,
I think in your lovely enthusiasm for the cause you're confusing vitamin D and what the theologians call 'original sin'  .
Cure all the Th1 disease throughout the world, abolish cancer, canonise Trevor Marshall , and you'll still have politicians making stupid decisions, and ordinary people making relationship mistakes, and fatties like us eating chocolate when we know we shouldn't, because at heart we're all too selfish, short-sighted, and unwilling to do anything other than 'what I want'. Illness can sometimes be a loving Creator's way of saying 'stop - you're going the wrong way.'
Here endeth the sermon 
Julia 
PS The last time Readers Digest did a glowing article on vit D I wrote them a response, but funny thing, it didn't make it to the responses page 
____________________ Sarc/uveitis/hypercalcaemia/ankle osteoarthritis/eczema. MP May04. 25D Apr09:5.6. Life is good! Julia's story
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ShrnHml Member in Phase 2/3

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Posted: Tue Aug 15th, 2006 22:18 |
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Right on, Lisa.............I love your enthusiasm!
I am rethinking an incredibly stupid financial decision I made several years ago and wondering if I was brain impaired or just gullible. I would love to "blame it on the bugs". Best to you and Gary. ..............Sharon
____________________ Neuroborreliosis, MP 3/05, 1,25D 62; 3/06 25D<4, ModPh2 12/05, Premarin, Effexor, stopped Benicar 1/07....no longer in study
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LisaN1971 Member in Phase 3

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Posted: Wed Aug 16th, 2006 04:31 |
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Hi Carole!
Thanks for the words. I apologize if I spread my wake-up-itis to you. LOL
My pessimism doesn't usually stick around for too long. Life is too short to be pessimistic all the time, sometimes realism can seem like pessimism, too. lol
Happy Herxing, we're all aiming to be Th1 Survivors!
LisaN
____________________ DX--Hypothyroid (1/02) Osteoarth, depression, fibromyalgia; Vits & Supps: Calcium, D-congestants; D tests (inconclusive); avoiding light: NoIRs, gloves, hat; Beni 09/05 Q6H, mino 09/05; phase 2 1/06; mod phase 2 5/06; full phase 3 08/08
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LisaN1971 Member in Phase 3

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Posted: Wed Aug 16th, 2006 05:05 |
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Julia said:
Cure all the Th1 disease throughout the world, abolish cancer, canonise Trevor Marshall , and you'll still have politicians making stupid decisions, and ordinary people making relationship mistakes, and fatties like us eating chocolate when we know we shouldn't, because at heart we're all too selfish, short-sighted, and unwilling to do anything other than 'what I want'. Illness can sometimes be a loving Creator's way of saying 'stop - you're going the wrong way.'
Here endeth the sermon 
Actually, I'm fully aware that politicians and people in general will still say and do stupid things. Much of it being in the name of God/Allah or personal ambition. The Crusades and any sort of Jihaad is an example of that. Humans, especially in large groups, seem to get caught up in causes and become willing to die for them (the Crusades or any Jihaad like movement). Kings, emporers and dictators have their own personal ambition and decide to conquer the known world (Alexander, the Romans, etc.). In either case, other people suffer and some cultures are wiped clean off the face of the earth.
Do I believe it is Th1 inspired? No, not at all. Human beings will do what human beings do.
On a more personal level, yes, we can be selfish. Some of it is necessary to survive and live in this world. If someone comes at me with a knife, I'm going to, selfish as it may be, try my darnedest to make sure I survive that knife attack. If he dies in the process I'd feel really guilty for being partially responsible for another person losing his life, but I will not let it ruin my life either. I won't let the guilt keep me from living life to its fullest. When I make small (in comparison to world shattering) selfish decisions, I am responsible to me and to my God.
When I wrote of Th1-induced stupidity, I wrote it as an overall possible excuse for people keeping minds closed to possibilities of making the world a better place. I don't think the Th1-induced stupidity will be cured on a mass scale. In fact, I don't believe that society as a whole will change a great deal due to the MP. I think it will be how we are going about it now, one person being cured at at time. One doctor realizing the potential of the MP and applying it to his/her patients. It took 50 years for the medical profession, as a whole, to get where it is today. I wish I had a crystal ball to be able to tell how long it's going to take before more and more of the medical community, as a whole, opens their eyes and realizes the benefits of the research of good people like Dr. Marshall, Dr. Cantwell, Dr. Livingstone-Wheeler, etc. (I hope I got the names right...lol...brain fog from too much sun today).
On a spiritual level I believe that we are getting a wake up call from our Higher Power to better ourselves and to share this information. However, I don't relate it to the original sin of selfishness that you clamed. That is always going to be up to the individual, regardless of whether that person is under the influence of Th1 or not. Having the Th1 gone will help people to realize their own potential and, if they feel they have them, evils. Yet again, though, it is going to be done one individual at a time. I hope we will be lucky enough to see this happen on a larger scale.
I will be happy to see it happen on a much smaller scale amongst my family and friends. I'm lucky enough to see it already happen to friends I am making who are already on the MP. I hope to see it happen to my grandmother so she will be around to see my niece and nephew have their own kids. I hope to see it happen to my sister who has been addicted to drugs most of her adult life. I hope to see it happen to friends of mine who are diabetic and/or have lupus so that I will be able to keep them as my friends alive and for a long time. On some level, this is selfish of me because I love and like having my friends and family around. If I didn't, I wouldn't be suffering as badly from Th1 because I'd be a hermit in a cave! lol Instead, right now I'm in a man-made cave with the windows covered and am able to get out into the world on a regular basis. I will selfishly continue to hope that people I know, and people I have yet to meet, do rid themselves of the alien invaders. Anywho, my own lecture is done. LOL
In regards to Reader's Digest, I've thought about writing to them myself. However, I haven't made up my mind about that yet. LOL
Happy herxing!
LisaN
____________________ DX--Hypothyroid (1/02) Osteoarth, depression, fibromyalgia; Vits & Supps: Calcium, D-congestants; D tests (inconclusive); avoiding light: NoIRs, gloves, hat; Beni 09/05 Q6H, mino 09/05; phase 2 1/06; mod phase 2 5/06; full phase 3 08/08
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LisaN1971 Member in Phase 3

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Posted: Wed Aug 16th, 2006 05:09 |
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Sharon,
Thanks for the kind words.
I love that phrase: Right on! I believe we are all, right on! We are on the right track to health!!
Yes, I do partially blame my bad decisions on the bugs, but I also had opportunity to prevent the results of the decisions from becoming too big. I suffered from two things at the time: Th1 and a syndrome I diagnosed for myself -- HIAS (Head In Arse Syndrome). I think I'm still recovering from HIAS. LOL
Best to you, Sharon. Keep up the good fight!!
LisaN
____________________ DX--Hypothyroid (1/02) Osteoarth, depression, fibromyalgia; Vits & Supps: Calcium, D-congestants; D tests (inconclusive); avoiding light: NoIRs, gloves, hat; Beni 09/05 Q6H, mino 09/05; phase 2 1/06; mod phase 2 5/06; full phase 3 08/08
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Julia Member in Phase 3

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Posted: Wed Aug 16th, 2006 11:16 |
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Hi Lisa,
Thanks for your response to my musings! I would just be concerned that, for all of us excited about the MP, our enthusiasm builds a vision of a disease-free world and a perfect society. I think it's because we've nearly all found we have mental symptoms of our disease, and it would be nice to blame all our faults and failings on something 
The more people who respond to the RD article, the more they might have to take notice!
Julia 
____________________ Sarc/uveitis/hypercalcaemia/ankle osteoarthritis/eczema. MP May04. 25D Apr09:5.6. Life is good! Julia's story
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LisaN1971 Member in Phase 3

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Posted: Wed Aug 16th, 2006 17:29 |
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Julia,
I admit to such idealistic musings once in a while. I see society becoming like Star Trek where the doctors are just needed for major things like broken bones, accidents, etc. LOL And, while I might blame some of my bad decisions on the invaders, I also hold myself to being responsible, regardless of the bugs. We could only wish more people would have SOME sense of self-responsibility as opposed to a sense of entitlement! lol Anyway, such is life the way it is right now.
Maybe I will respond, however, before I do that I want to make sure that my response would have the facts, specifically scientific, before I respond to the Vit D article in RD. Otherrwise, I believe my response could make things worse instead of enlightening.
Have a good one!
LisaN
____________________ DX--Hypothyroid (1/02) Osteoarth, depression, fibromyalgia; Vits & Supps: Calcium, D-congestants; D tests (inconclusive); avoiding light: NoIRs, gloves, hat; Beni 09/05 Q6H, mino 09/05; phase 2 1/06; mod phase 2 5/06; full phase 3 08/08
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Freddie Ash Member in Phase 3

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Posted: Wed Aug 16th, 2006 18:50 |
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HI LISA
This is Fred in WV. Thanks for all you have said. I want to tell you are very lucky to have some other sarc friend close by to have helped. I have talked to Gary at both of the Conferences that Doctor Marshall has presented.
One of the best things you can have is a close friend to help you along.
Remember, we are all in this together and I am pulling for us.
Your friend in sarcoidosis
Freddie
____________________ Freddie: dx-sarc 2/82 lymph; skin, eyes, joints, esophagus, intestines, spleen, heart,lungs-meds digitek, L-thyroxine, nexium, furosemide, nattokinase36mg,eat cinnamon w/meals,25D-7; 125-D43
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LisaN1971 Member in Phase 3

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Posted: Wed Aug 16th, 2006 19:59 |
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Hi Freddie!
I believe we met at the last conference in LA. Good to talk to you again. Writing is my way of venting. lol Otherwise I'm afraid I'd punch someone or the wall. Yes, I am very lucky to have Gary to help me out with this. His understanding and having experienced some of this before is a great comfort to me. I think it's been the reason I don't post on the MP Board with too many questions, I just ask him. 
BTW, I like the sig line: remember, we are all in this together. I love the Red Greene Show on PBS. The things he does with duct tape!
Happy tolerable herxes!
LisaN
Last edited on Wed Aug 16th, 2006 21:01 by LisaN1971
____________________ DX--Hypothyroid (1/02) Osteoarth, depression, fibromyalgia; Vits & Supps: Calcium, D-congestants; D tests (inconclusive); avoiding light: NoIRs, gloves, hat; Beni 09/05 Q6H, mino 09/05; phase 2 1/06; mod phase 2 5/06; full phase 3 08/08
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BARNEY Moderator

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Posted: Thu Aug 17th, 2006 12:11 |
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Lisa,
Been reading your version of 'the body snatchers'....luv it...keep venting...if you read my post you will see the anger I was feel....took 25mg mino because I was getting such rage building inside I was feeling worse than the worse stress I have ever had.....surprise....it was a herx and the mino...gave me some peace again.
If you look at how all these people are fighting around the world...even in baseball games....we need to get everyone on MP....they are all Th1.
Ps I luv Red Green (a nice clean show) with lots of duct tape which I really believe would hold almost anything together....it held our camper door together for 8 months after it blew apart in a bad wind in Texas in the middle of no where.
HANG IN THERE, WE WILL MAKE IT!!!BARNEY
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