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Why do I have to stop my alternative treatment and avoid most supplements?
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 Posted: Wed Sep 5th, 2007 01:29

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Homeopathy

The efficacy of oscillococcinum is seriously in doubt and it is not likely to be harmful but we disparage the use of any substance whose action in the body cannot be verified by science.

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Hyperbaric oxygen therapy

Hyperbaric oxygen therapy appears to be pallitive for some folks with Th1 diseases which isn't necessarily a good thing and it is relatively dangerous. In the absence of any real indication, the use of regular oxygen (if indicated) is much safer.

Since healthy blood has PH value of 7.10 could oxygenation of blood in autoimmune patient be a good preamble to any treatment protocol?

PH is of no use as a therapeutic tool.
This is because the intraphagocytic microbiota is a biofilm protected community in the cytoplasm of phagocytes. Did you look at the Wirostko photographs in my Metagenomics 2007 presentation? If you start fooling with the PH in a white cell's cytoplasm, pretty soon you will have a dead patient.
http://autoimmunityresearch.org/transcripts/metagenomics2007.pdf

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Prolotherapy

Prolotherapy ("Proliferative Injection Therapy") involves injecting an irritant solution into joint capsules or where tendon connects to bone for the purpose of strengthening weakened connective tissue and alleviating musculoskeletal pain. The injected solution causes the body to heal itself through the process of inflammation and repair, although strong scientific evidence supporting this is lacking.

This therapy is contraindicated for several reasons:

-it increases inflammation

-if dextrose is used, this substance will encourage the growth of CWD

-any injection involves the potential to introduce more CWD into the body

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Bacteriophage therapy

It just makes no sense to introduce yet another DNA/RNA organism into the pea soup.

Russian clinics have been using bacteriophage therapy for decades. It doesn't cure Russian Sarcoidosis, why should it cure any other Th1 disease?

Horizontal transfer of DNA/RNA between organisms is the primary mechanism by which the Microbiota causing Th1 disease accumulates its pathogenic capability. Adding a new pathogen at some point is a statistical risk. It might reduce overall pathogenicity or it might increase it. Some folk do experience improvement of symptoms during an acute infection. But not cure. In the long run the extra pathogen (eg the bacteriophage) can only present more problems.

How important is horizontal DNA transfer? Well, a recent study found that HIV genes had incorporated themselves into the DNA of gut bacteria. http://tinyurl.com/367btt

Every concept held dear by the specialty of Infectious Disease is being thrown out the window, and, first and foremost, Koch's concept of one disease, one pathogen. It only holds for the diseases we have solved, not the diseases which still plague mankind.
 
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D-mannose

An effort to determine which carbohydrates Bb consumes revealed that the organism utilizes the monosaccharides glucose, mannose and N-acetylglucosamine, as well as the disaccharides maltose and chitobiose.

"Stay away from ALL sugars, including D-mannose."

..Trevor..

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Aloe vera

You state that fresh aloe vera gel contains "more than 200 substances" and that it has "has made me so well" and that it "does not suppress or enchance anything in the immune system, it supports it natural action towards a balanced state."

Our understanding of immune system dysfunction is based on the precision of molecular genomics. It is not possible for us to study all the ingredients in aloe vera gel at the molecular level. I don't doubt you feel better since taking this supplement but your symptoms and D-metabolites indicate that you are not well.

The bottom line is aloe vera gel apparently modulates the immune system in unknown ways. The fact that it palliates your symptoms suggests suppression which is contraindicated if you really want to get well.

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Massage and physical therapy

Acupressure

Acupressure is a manual therapy that utilizes the principles of acupuncture, using a finger knuckle instead of acupuncture needle.

It would fall under the general guidelines of our advice on Massage & Physical therapy

I would use this therapy judiciously only if a well-trained practioner understood it was to be for a specific purpose, such as alleviating intense pain, particularly if money is an issue and you are paying for this.  Be aware that some acupressure treatment is intended to boost the immune system, which could make it more difficult for you to keep your immunopathology at a tolerable level.

Be cautious that you attempt this sort of treatment only with a practitioner you trust and who understands your current challenges.

My personal opinion, based on the information you gave, would be to exercise caution for these reasons:
 - this therapy may stimulate the immune system, making control of immunopathology too much of a challenge;
 - some people are unusually sensitive to something like an electromagnetic mat and
 - if cost is a limiting factor, you don't want an added financial drain.

You need to use your best judgement here - keeping in mind that:
 - you don't want to mix in a treatment that conflicts with the MP.
 - some people have found their hypersensitivities and allergies improve over time as their health improves using the MP.

~Belinda

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Far infrared saunas (FIR)

Infrared saunas raise body temperature to cause cause sweating which is touted to get rid of body toxins and metabolic wastes, promote weight loss, provide the equivalent of a cardiovascular workout and relieve pain.

Infrared saunas are contraindicated because the heat they produce catalyzes the creation of vitamin D.

"The quanta of energy do not vary that much between near-UV and visible and Far-IR. Maybe by a factor of 3, or so, but nobody has shown that the 7-dehydrocholesterol steroid ring cleavage requires that much energy. In fact, all the current pragma about UV has been based on in-vitro work, which is subject to many, many, errors.

We know TNF-alpha catalyzes the production of 1,25-D in keratinocytes. That speaks to a continuous process, not a quantized reaction. The hundreds of folks on the MP are keeping away from UV like the plague, yet they continue to produce 1,25-D:):)

..Trevor..

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Acupuncture

Members have reported increased symptoms following acupuncture which suggested some acupuncture treatments affect the immune system.

According to this source Acupuncture - National Cancer Institute, acupuncture affects the immune system. "It is proposed that, by these actions, acupuncture affects blood pressure and body temperature, boosts immune system activity, and causes the body's natural ..."

Acupuncture may be used for pain control if it is effective and does not increase other symptoms.

If your treatment is not solely guided by the need for pain relief, acupuncture is contraindicated.

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Stimulants

Caffeine

I have seen no evidence that caffeine is helpful to the recovery trajectory of patients on the MP.

Caffeine is supposed to act on the cAMP and PKA pathway, and therefore it is likely to have negative effects on VDR homeostasis, and upon recovery.

.....there is virtually no precise science on exactly how caffeine works. However, I know it is not necessary to take this drug in order to recover. Nor is it necessary to take this drug in order to remain functional, at work, during recovery on the MP.

I would urge anybody who is taking anything other than what is listed in the MP Phase 1 and Phase 2 documentation to stop doing so. If you must go your own way please do not come back and complain "the MP does not work properly." ..Trevor..

Provigil

We have serious concerns about the use of Provigil for fatigue. The October 05 issue of the Readers Digest has an article about the alarming increase in the use of Provigil by people who just want to stay awake longer. It suggests the use of Provigil may be appropriate for someone in an emergency situation such as firefighters or rescue workers. But it is being used by tired new parents, students needing to pull an 'all-nighter', truckers with deadlines and employees who want to impress the boss with their productivity. It works remarkably well to increase alertness without becoming 'wired' but it appears to be addicting (at least psychologically) and there are no long term studies regarding its safety.  Side effects include depression, anxiety, hallucinations, psychosis, mania and suicidal thoughts.

According to the Food and Drug Administration, provigil should be used only in patients who have had a complete evaluation of their excessive sleepiness, and in whom a diagnosis of either narcolepsy, Obstructive Sleep Apnea-Hypopnea Syndrome (OSAHS), and/or Shift-Work Sleep Disorder (SWSD) has been made.


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