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Posted: Fri Mar 17th, 2006 23:43 |
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I've developed rectal bleeding. What should I do?
Folks with inflammation in their gastrointestinal tract, may develop rectal bleeding, hemorrhoids or fissures, especially if this is a symptom they have had in the past. The usual reason is immunopathology and it may coincide with an increase in antibiotics.
Dr. Blaney explained in his conference presentation that many of our systemic symptoms (including those involving digestion) are actually caused by inflammation in some part of the nervous system. See Wisdom of the Gut
The autonomic system controls muscles in the heart, the smooth muscle in internal organs such as the intestine, bladder, and uterus. Here are web sources that will provide background information:
http://tinyurl.com/ob8br
http://tinyurl.com/cs2co
To dampen all intolerable symptoms, see My immune system reaction is too strong. What should I do?
Bleeding
Here is an article that explains the significance of blood in the stool. If bleeding is not too severe, it is unlikely to cause anemia. Be sure not to take any medication that can prolong bleeding time such as aspirin, including herbal products. Please consult your doctor if you are using aspirin in any form. Aspirin is contraindicated with any bleeding because it prolongs bleeding time. If you are concerned do not hesitate to contact your Doctor.
Here is an article which explains hemorrhoids and your options for treating them.
Prevention
To allow any inflammation and trauma to heal, promote regular evacuation and prevent constipation see I'm constipated. What should I do?
See also I have diarrhea. What should I do?
In those who have a high level of immunopathology, exertion or exercise (even as gentle as walking) can increase pressure on sensitive tissues and may cause rectal bleeding.
Palliation
For further temporary relief of any intolerable symptoms, contact your doctor or pharmacist for advice about palliative medications. See Medications to Avoid While on the Marshall Protocol.
One Member reports that Benadryl helped.
You may use Rx steroid ointments sparingly.
If necessary, ask your Doctor for pain medication. See Pain Control
See how One Member dealt with rectal bleeding and here
These members have dealt with this symptom and have agreed to be available for support via email or private message:
LH1953 (Lori)
Zackone (Fred)
Aunt Diana
-It may be better to get cream instead of a suppository from your doctor, it might be easier on the tissues. Also be very careful if Nitro-Bid (nitroglycerin ointment 2% ) is ordered by your doctor. This was given to me by a rectal doc to try and constrict tissue for swelling. I applied a VERY tiny amount and immediately fell to the ground. ~Lori
When having a flare, pull back antibiotics till it gets better. Take extra Benicar. Use cream form of any medication, not suppository as this is too painfull to use. (adds more pressure) I use sparingly using gloved finger (using a Q-tip may be less irritating to the tissue) to apply to location only where the flared tissue is: RX, LidaZone HC Cream. This has lidocaine HCl 3% and Hydrocortisone Acetate 0.5% Zinc ointment may soothe the tissue without cortisone. Watch diet, avoid spices/garlic. ~Lori
-My doctor recomended a great medicine for the fissure, named sufrexal P, it has ketanserine and it is from janssen lab. It heals the fissure and has benzocaine which numbs, doest burn and doesn´t make toxic things, maybe you want to google it. It made me better in four days!!! ~Marion
-I found the best thing for the botom pain and bleeding was K cream or sudocrem which is zinc based. ~Patrickburke
-Well .... there was one herx that I could have lived without. But it is gone now.<<< that was the flaming butt herx. Basically, very much flaming and burning during, and then again several hours after ... erm ..... evacuation. There was blood coming up on the toilet paper, but no bleeding seperate from the erm .... evacuation. Benadryl was the only thing that helped with the pain (as needed) ~MarkN
Sitz bath
-The use of a "Sitz Bath" soothes the tissue in the rectal area. This is a device that fits on top of the toilet. You lift the "seat" up then place it on the rim. This is a quick fix instead of having to fill the bath to get temporary relief. It can be used as often as needed with warm, not scalding water. It can be purchased at the pharmacy. Ask them to order it for you, or go to a surgical supply store. Some come with a bag to fill it, I just fill at sink, then put on toilet, when done, dump it down toilet. Very neat and convenient! ~Lori
Cold to shrink hemorrhoids
-After a colonoscopy with prep last week I had a hemorrhoid flare. It was painful and my father suggested placing an ice cube on the site while holding one end with a papertowel. When I get tired I just drop the ice cube in the toilette and discard the papertowel (don't want to clog the toilette with the paper towell.)
Any way the proceedure is fast painless and it shrunk the hemorrhoid by 3/4 and left me with no pain, the first try! If I feel any discomfort I repeat the process, the most has been 3x daily. It worked when steroid cream didn't and is better for compliance with the MP.
Now I just have a tiny protuding hemorrhoid that doesn't hurt and doesn't require meds and ithis technique is easy to do. Feel free to pass this info on if you think it migh help others. ~Kelly Well
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Posted: Sun Jul 9th, 2006 07:17 |
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LH1953 Lori wrote: Testimonial
There seems to be a definite connection with rectal bleeding, and eating garlic. I have spoken to a few members on the MP starting phase 2 who have contacted me. This is also when my bleeding started. Garlic was the trigger food that we all seem to share in common. I know that once this became a symptom for me, I get flair up tissue response with this or spicy foods. Also, drop the Mino down to help with the bleeding. If you are in Phase 2 and this does not help, ask the board about modified Phase 2. Maybe this will help.
March 09:
http://www.simplehemorrhoidscure.com/irc-hemorrhoid.php
The above link explains what an IRC procedure is. I have been currently doing this for my hemorrhoids. This has given me tremendous relief from my extremely painful colon, just after my 1st treatment. (I told doc where to start 1st, my worse area). I have had 2 of the 4 treatments, which are 5 weeks apart. I was asked to use 2 tab. spoons of mineral oil for two weeks to avoid any irritation from hard stool. The doctor does one quad at a time. I took 5 mg diazepam before the appointment. Doc did not tell me to, but he said that it really helped. He said that I did not move, which made the procedure go even faster. I had several spots for him to do. You really do not feel pain, just pressure, and by the time you are ready to say ouch, it is over. I did experience extreme pressure for about 15 minutes after procedure, I took 1/4 of a fioricet and then went food shopping after. I HIGHLY recommend this procedure for those who suffer from hemorrhoids. I have kept my ABX low till I am totally finished with all 4 quads, as I do not want to exacerbate or increase any inflammation in this area. My colon had always dictated how I am able to do the MP. I am looking forward in the future when everything is completed to see if I will finally be able to up any ABX in a timely fashion. BTW, I can now eat pasta sauce with garlic and not have discomfort!!! Garlic has been a big trigger for me. I am not going to eat it much, but it is nice to know I will not suffer so bad, as I have in the past.
Feel free to PM me and if you live in the US, I can talk with you about it.
Wellness to All, Lori
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Hi Dr. M. I have something I want to share with you about my personal experience which I feel has been my success in doing the MP. The first 2 1/2 years I kept trying to progress with upping my ABX, and every time I did, my colon would give me trouble. It took 4 weeks into phase 2, but I developed a fissure, and thus, my colon has always dictated HOW I am able to do the MP).
Last Oct. family circumstances forced me to be the "person" who had to shop, drive etc. in order for our family to get by. THIS is when I started to approach the MP in a different light. (I have never been able to manage the starting doses of the MCZ combo, but I have made WONDERFUL progress on my MP journey). I had to cut back to tiny doses of my already small ABX dosing. In doing so, I discovered for me that my approach to the MP now is to: LIVE with the MP instead of trying to get through the MP.
Now that I am doing so, my body is still experiencing IP, but on a subtle level. I am no longer having those HORRIBLE days. I have not fallen backwards, and am managing well.
In Jan I had to travel up North. I was able to do so, due to my need of changing my MP style.
I have never fit the norm with anything when it came to my heath. I too am not able to do the MP they way most are able.
I have not wanted to post my personal experience on the MP because it is not the "norm" of how it is done. BUT I do believe those who are quite ill might benefit from this approach, since most are so eager to get to the next level, they cause intense IP responses. This then becomes discouraging, and that is when they call, and I give them my pep talk to hang in there They don't have the mind set that it is OK to take a "breath" and give their body a chance to recoup, it is a constant PUSH.
The MP has always encouraged people to take it to a tolerable level, but most have a mind set of pushing, instead of managing.
I have never believed in anything so strongly in life, as I do the MP. I also know that I would not be here if not for the MP. Once again, Thank You for your time and giving me a future with my family.
Forever grateful, Lori
Last edited on Sun Mar 29th, 2009 08:58 by Aussie Barb
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