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paulalbert
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Posted: Sat Jan 10th, 2009 04:56 |
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The transcript of the clinical talk is up on the KB:
http://mpkb.mp-dev.com/doku.php/home:publications:marshall_westchina_2008
Thank you very much to Margaret who did this. If you notice mistakes in the transcription, feel free to change them.
Paul
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Frans
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Posted: Sat Jan 10th, 2009 17:24 |
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Interesting study, finding P. Acnes in Sarc and also correllating it to ACE levels:
The number of genomes of P. acnes in BAL cells was correlated with the serum angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) level and the percentage of macrophages in BAL fluid from patients with sarcoidosis. CONCLUSIONS: The amount of P. acnes DNA in BAL cells from patients with sarcoidosis was significantly higher than that in BAL cells from patients with other pulmonary diseases. P. acnes may be involved in the pathogenesis of sarcoidosis.
(PMID 19070256)
Best, Frans
Last edited on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 17:25 by Frans
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Gus
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Posted: Mon Jan 12th, 2009 10:38 |
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Also in SLE. P acnes is of course a cell-wall deficient bacterium
see http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119555659/abstract
Gus
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Dr Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Thu Feb 26th, 2009 03:40 |
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Janet has finished a printable transcript of the West China Hospital Presentation. This is an important one to print for Doc, as it deals with clinical aspects I usually don't cover in the scientific presentations.
http://AutoimmunityResearch.org/transcripts/WCH_2008_seminar_transcript.pdf
(the video is at http://www.vimeo.com/2599416 )
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neldawhite
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Posted: Thu Feb 26th, 2009 19:14 |
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Hello Dr. Marshall,
I'm in Phase 2 and just sat down with my very supportive husband and read the transcript on your visit to China. I had already watched the video. My husband focused on an answer you gave and was curious about all the IP that I have been professing. The question we have is where you say "Therefore, the dietary VD has to be kept below 15nan, or there won't be any immunopatholgy, there won't be any bug killing". We were under the assumption there would be less bug-killing if the VD levels were not low but not any bug-killing.
So the question is; Am I really experiencing IP from bug-killing if my VD is at 28nan? I'm still assuming there is great benefit in activating the VDR with Benicar, but have I been killing any bugs so far? And if not what is causing my IP like symptoms?
Thanks you,
Nelda
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Dr Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Fri Feb 27th, 2009 00:43 |
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That is a case where I was being over-zealous to get my message through.
Indeed, even if the 25-D is in the 30's it is capable of being displaced by a sufficient Benicar dose.
My point was that 25-D does not leave the arena until it falls below about 12 ng/ml 
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neldawhite
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Posted: Sat Feb 28th, 2009 19:38 |
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| Thank you now I can go back to being pampered through my very real IP.
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