 |
| Author | Post |
|---|
Dr Trevor Marshall
Foundation Staff
|
Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 05:52 |
|
Stevia sweetener has always been an enigma for me, as I couldn't really find any brand which tasted good both in my hot tea and chocolate. 'Super Stevia' liquid came closest for chocolate, but it changed the taste of my tea.
A new brand has appeared on my local supermarket shelves, "Stevia in the raw," $3.50 per box of 50 packets.
http://www.steviaextractintheraw.com/
Containing dextrose, it is not pure Stevia extract, but it does the job of sweetening drinks very well, without any (significant ) added calories. Indeed, half a packet seems plenty for standard size teacups.
Especially since there seems to now be a cloud hanging over Splenda, I suggest you give 'Stevia in the raw' a try 
|
Freddie Ash
Member in Phase 3
|
Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 13:13 |
|
HI ALL
This is Fred in WV. Not too long ago I switched from Splenda to TRUVIA. It tasted better than the other form of Stevia, ONLY SWEET at Krogers. I got my Truvia at Walmart, 80 packets for $6.12 or 40 for $3.68.
The Truvia does not taste like I described as leafey at the Autoimmune Support Group meetings. I think it is the best I have found for me. Thanks Dr Marshall for the info.
Remember, we are all in this together and I am pulling for us.
Your friend in Sarcoidosis
Freddie
____________________
Freddie: dx-sarc 2/82 lymph; skin, eyes, joints, esophagus, intestines, spleen, heart,lungs-meds digitek, L-thyroxine, nexium, furosemide, nattokinase36mg,eat cinnamon w/meals,25D-7; 125-D43
|
Wojta
Member in Phase 3
| Joined: | Mon Jan 21st, 2008 |
| Location: | Czech Republic |
| Posts: | 88 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 13:43 |
|
Especially since there seems to now be a cloud hanging over Splenda, I suggest you give 'Stevia in the raw' a try
Hello Dr.Marshall,
may I ask what is this cloud over Splenda? I started using it (although very occassionally - max. 2-3 pills per week) after recommendation on this site, so is there something bad about it? Should I try to get Stevia for my low-carb diet instead of Splenda?
Thank you.
____________________
Lyme, Feb08: 1,25D=43.9pg/ml, 25D=10.8ng/ml, 25D=8.7ng/ml on Jul 15 2008, Xyzal 5mg qd, covered up outside, NoIRs, no direct sunlight
|
eClaire
Member in Phase 2
| Joined: | Mon Sep 25th, 2006 |
| Location: | Virginia USA |
| Posts: | 855 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 21:06 |
|
Hmmm...splenda has always affected my stomach/intestines just like the rest of the fake sugars, though, I can use just a smidgen without complaint in black tea (unlike the others).
I've found just a few drops of liquid stevia good in green tea (but not black) cold or hot and in hot or cold tea made from ginger and lime juice. I found that I started off with more drops and disliking the taste and being able to wean down to fewer drops and liking the taste more as my body adjusted to less sweet.
Stevia in the raw sounds interesting; Stevia packets that I tasted in the past were down right disgusting and thrown out without more than one trial. Thanks for the link and tip!!!
Claire
____________________
38mo on MP; CFS FMS MCS COPD hypermob. IBS/GERD osteopor.; 125D48 25D<4;
NoIRs during most daylight outings & covered up; home w/o NoIRs
Ph1.Dec06 * ModPh2.Jun07 * AbxBrk.Mar-May08 * Ph2.Oct-Nov08 * Ph1.Jan2009
|
Sondles
Member in Phase 3
|
Posted: Fri May 1st, 2009 10:01 |
|
What "cloud over splenda"?
____________________
Rickettsia.Ankylosing Spondilytis.FM.CFS.Endometriosis Asthma
Osteoarthritis.Ph1Oct07.Ph2Jan08.Ph3Apr09 125D38.25D45(Oct07)25D14(May08)25D14(Oct08)25D13.5(Jan09)25D22.(May09)25D22(Aug09)25D11.6 (Jan10) 25D7.2 NoIrs.Covered up,low lux home,
|
Dr Trevor Marshall
Foundation Staff
|
Posted: Fri May 1st, 2009 11:05 |
|
It changed the expression of CYP3A4 in mice:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18800291
In mice, but still hard to discount. A well performed study, as far as I can tell from the text
(CYP3A4 is a key enzyme in the immune system -> it is in my Bioessay Figure 1)
|
Sondles
Member in Phase 3
|
Posted: Fri May 1st, 2009 16:23 |
|
Thank you Dr. Marshall>
Sondles
____________________
Rickettsia.Ankylosing Spondilytis.FM.CFS.Endometriosis Asthma
Osteoarthritis.Ph1Oct07.Ph2Jan08.Ph3Apr09 125D38.25D45(Oct07)25D14(May08)25D14(Oct08)25D13.5(Jan09)25D22.(May09)25D22(Aug09)25D11.6 (Jan10) 25D7.2 NoIrs.Covered up,low lux home,
|
Cynthia Schnitz
Member in Phase 3
|
Posted: Sat May 2nd, 2009 16:39 |
|
Is there anything in these investigations,
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18800291
that would give a clue as to why Splenda is very effective in raising my blood sugar? Cynthia
____________________
Ph1 10/08, Ph2 12/08, Ph3 6/09, 125/25D 47/43 preMP, 25D14 12/09, Estradiol .75mg, Calcium anomaly(gone?), Spondylitis, early Diverticulosis, early Macular Degeneration(AMD), Type II Diabetes (unconfirmed,PreDiabetes?), returning sense smell
|
shamutooth
Member in Phase 3
| Joined: | Sat Sep 25th, 2004 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 227 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Wed May 6th, 2009 14:04 |
|
| Is it reco'd now that we not use Splenda? I've been drinking quite a bit of diet soda sweetened with it(100-120 oz soda daily),without noticing any side effects at all.I feel better drinking soda with Splenda than I do with Nutrasweet,FWIW and it tastes so much better too.
____________________
MCS,CFS,IBS,insomnia,anxiety,depression,started Doxy July'04, MP Sept. 04; Benicar 40mg 3/day; Phase 2 started 2/2/05; 6/28/05 D results 25D=29,125D=47;11/13/05 25D=10
|
Dr Trevor Marshall
Foundation Staff
|
Posted: Wed May 6th, 2009 15:52 |
|
Sam,
Splenda is OK in moderation, such as in the amounts you would get in soda. Do try the 'Stevia in the Raw' though, it is pretty good
|
BARNEY
Moderator
|
Posted: Wed May 6th, 2009 19:15 |
|
QUILLAIA, is one of the ingredients in diet MUG root beer. I looked it up and it is from the bark of the soapbark tree. I researched it a little to find that too much of this can cause liver damage. How much is too much?
It is hard to find sodas here with Spenda in them so I do drink some nutrasweet ones but they have started adding accesumfame K, so do not know how much nutrasweet is now in them.
When I moved to Deming 14yrs ago, you could by accesumfame K in our local grocery but since the 'big boys' have started using it, I can not find it. It does really sweeten stuff and there was no aftertaste. I looked it up too, but don't remember what it said it was made from.
I stick by my old standbys....sweet/low and stevia together, always sweet, never bitter....been doing this for several years now, I always worry about my 1 kidney with this stuff.
I tried the new Truvia, but wasn't too impressed.
HANG IN THERE, WE WILL MAKE IT!!!BARNEY
____________________
64jointsarc77skinsarc80lungsarc81asthma/migranes
95rkidneyremoved(cyst)diabetic/gallbremoved,96
totalhyst(cysts,endom)01fibro,Benicar40/20mg&xtra
as needed,stage5,
|
Dr Trevor Marshall
Foundation Staff
|
Posted: Wed May 6th, 2009 19:35 |
|
Barney,
A box of "Stevia in the Raw" is winging its way to you Watch your mailbox
|
BARNEY
Moderator
|
Posted: Wed May 6th, 2009 21:11 |
|
Very sweet of you Trevor. THANKS!!!
HANG IN THERE, WE WILL MAKE IT!!!BARNEY
____________________
64jointsarc77skinsarc80lungsarc81asthma/migranes
95rkidneyremoved(cyst)diabetic/gallbremoved,96
totalhyst(cysts,endom)01fibro,Benicar40/20mg&xtra
as needed,stage5,
|
Cynthia Schnitz
Member in Phase 3
|
Posted: Thu May 7th, 2009 01:13 |
|
| Both my significant other and I can get some pretty bad flatulence from acesulfame potassium. I have noticed less of this effect lately, but I am not sure if I am changing, or manufacturers are using it in smaller quantities. Cynthia
____________________
Ph1 10/08, Ph2 12/08, Ph3 6/09, 125/25D 47/43 preMP, 25D14 12/09, Estradiol .75mg, Calcium anomaly(gone?), Spondylitis, early Diverticulosis, early Macular Degeneration(AMD), Type II Diabetes (unconfirmed,PreDiabetes?), returning sense smell
|
Dr Trevor Marshall
Foundation Staff
|
Posted: Thu Aug 20th, 2009 04:15 |
|
Interesting new article on the ACS website showing the use of array technology to distinguish sweeteners.
The diagram at:
http://web.1.c2.audiovideoweb.com/1c2web3536/Sweetenerdetector.jpg
shows that Stevia has little in common with other sweeteners, which is kinda interesting.
|
Joyful
Foundation Staff
| Joined: | Sat Jun 9th, 2007 |
| Location: | USA |
| Posts: | 2189 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Thu Aug 20th, 2009 06:44 |
|
I'm not sure what the dots all mean, but it seems to have a very light "footprint" that most closely matches the refined "Domino Sugar" pattern.
____________________
MP Stories | Bacteriality | MP Search | MP Knowledge Base
|
Dr Trevor Marshall
Foundation Staff
|
Posted: Thu Aug 20th, 2009 13:16 |
|
Right, except for the bright green sucrose spot Maybe somebody could grab the fulltext for me and look into what substances give rise to those dots. I am busy on other stuff at the moment 
|
BARNEY
Moderator
|
Posted: Thu Aug 20th, 2009 16:29 |
|
Trevor,
Since I have been an avid user of Stevia and Sweet and Low, and have tried all of the others, I sent the test people an email asking for clarification of the different colors of dots/what they mean.
Will advise when I get answer.
HANG IN THERE, WE WILL MAKE IT!!!!BARNEY
____________________
64jointsarc77skinsarc80lungsarc81asthma/migranes
95rkidneyremoved(cyst)diabetic/gallbremoved,96
totalhyst(cysts,endom)01fibro,Benicar40/20mg&xtra
as needed,stage5,
|
Cynthia Schnitz
Member in Phase 3
|
Posted: Thu Aug 20th, 2009 18:02 |
|
| This is a case where common use could possibly change food as we know it. If they miss a few subtle/low concentration chemicals, these chemicals would soon be ignored, and all foods would start to taste standardized, much as we would expect if food was created synthetically. An example might be vanillin, a synthetic vanilla, where all vanillin tastes the same, but real vanilla has the possibility of being from different species of the Vanilla orchid plant (orchids are my interest), or from different locals with variations in climate/soil/humidity. Cynthia
____________________
Ph1 10/08, Ph2 12/08, Ph3 6/09, 125/25D 47/43 preMP, 25D14 12/09, Estradiol .75mg, Calcium anomaly(gone?), Spondylitis, early Diverticulosis, early Macular Degeneration(AMD), Type II Diabetes (unconfirmed,PreDiabetes?), returning sense smell
|
Joyful
Foundation Staff
| Joined: | Sat Jun 9th, 2007 |
| Location: | USA |
| Posts: | 2189 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Fri Aug 21st, 2009 02:30 |
|
Cynthia,
That is an interesting comment.
I love organic vanilla extract. Tastes 'right' to me.
And, if I had a serious weakness, it would be for the particular type of cinnamon (makara) used to make Cinnabon rolls (good thing I don't visit the malls where they have their stores, I'd be filling my face with them every time).
____________________
MP Stories | Bacteriality | MP Search | MP Knowledge Base
|
Current time is 08:55 | Page: 1 2   |
|
|
|
|
