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Dr Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Sat Dec 26th, 2009 09:03 |
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I am in Chengdu again, from Christmas to New Year, to meet with our collaborators at West China Hospital.
There is nothing quite like an older Chinese city. Ok, well, parts of Singapore are pretty close 
Beijing is a pristine city with only the middle-class left in the sight of tourists, but the older cities - Chengdu, Foshan, Luzhou (just some I have already seen), spring to life in a way that sterile Beijing never can...
I just wandered through the back-streets behind the hotel here. You leave the front door of the hotel and within 50yards are dropped directly into the chaotic (and dangerous) job of crossing the street... The street markets in the two photographs below are just 500 walking yards away from the modern (2008) hotel I am staying in...
Here is a street stall, with the boiling, braising and steaming food smells spilling into the street, creating a wonderfully stimulating holiday atmosphere...
(Click on the image to enlarge it and see the detail)
Here is a street vendor of vegetables, with a 7 foot by 6 foot display area forming the rear of his bicycle, with a meat vendor in the background. Note the sausages (etc) hanging up in front of the stall, and the choice cuts neatly arranged for the shopper to choose from.
You know, I can remember my grandfather taking me to meat-shops in South Australia (when I was a kid) - but it is all supermarkets and sterility there now... No more borrowing of white paper from the butcher so that kids could draw on it... There is certainly something to be said for understanding that food, and its preparation, are such fundamental human activities.. and social activities at that...
I apologize for the low quality of these images, they were taken at dusk, and I had to use an HDR technique to bring out as much detail as I could...
Happy Holidays!
..Trevor..
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Posted: Sat Dec 26th, 2009 11:24 |
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Nice fresh food.
I have always wondered, is it true that in China alternative medicine healers get paid after they make person better ?
Happy New Year.
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Dr Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Sat Dec 26th, 2009 22:12 |
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Watching over us all at breakfast this morning was this cute fellow:
Which reminded me of the announcement on the 747 aircraft PA system as we were about to land at Beijing, after the 12 hour flight from LAX.
"The temperature at Beijing airport is minus 12 degrees centigrade. Please put on your coats in case we have to evacuate the aircraft"
A little bit of tact was lost in translation, think
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ChrisMavo
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Posted: Sat Dec 26th, 2009 23:28 |
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Thanks for sharing the pictures of the scenes there in China! No need to apologize for the quality... they are very good! My wife and I have done a lot of traveling. One of our favorite things to do is to get off the beaten path and find the street food vendors that don't cater to the tourists! The smaller shops and even hotels give you a much more rich travel experience. But, in China, I can recognize the need for a nice modern hotel as your oasis in the chaos of the large cities!
Enjoy your trip Dr Marshall ... I know you will keep us informed of any interesting things that happen!
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Aunt Diana
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Posted: Sun Dec 27th, 2009 00:09 |
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Thank you for the wonderful pictures of the street markets....oddly enough it reminds me of Mexico. The way the fresh vegetables are displayed ...the only thing missing is the aroma.
You've convinced me that China is now on my list...I guess it should have been all along.
Merry Christmas to all and especially to Dr. Marshall and Aussie Barb.
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Deedee
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Posted: Sun Dec 27th, 2009 03:16 |
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How Fun!!!
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Dr Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Sun Dec 27th, 2009 09:31 |
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Today (Sunday) I visited Wenzhen Zhang, and Professor Yuding Hao, of the State Key Laboratory of Oral Diseases, Chengdu.
Wenzhen Zhang had written to Amy Proal about the L-form work they have been doing at that Lab. You can find an earlier paper here:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19539433
but it suffices to say that Prof Yuding Hao was able to give me the correct number of species in the salivary microbiome - so they know their stuff...
Photograph number 1 is not of their electron microscope, or their micro-CT, it is of the dental surgery section at the hospital. Here is a gentleman having his teeth fixed (yes, on a Sunday):
(Click on the image to open a full-size detailed image)
Note the open plan of this surgery. That is a car parked on the road outside, and it is possible for pedestrians on that busy road to look in and watch the full proceedings...
Now, here is a view of the hallway from whence I took that photo:
Yes, you can see surgical cubicle side-by-side with cubicle, all open plan. And the families are watching from the hallway, an observation gallery. Families take a huge part in the care of their loved ones in China. You will also see them in the wards at West China Hospital, bringing in home-cooked good food for their sick loved ones... in the wards...
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Posted: Sun Dec 27th, 2009 10:43 |
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Dr Trevor Marshall wrote: Families take a huge part in the care of their loved ones in China. You will also see them in the wards at West China Hospital, bringing in home-cooked good food for their sick loved ones... in the wards... Ask to go visit an inpatients ward... Having spent more time than I'd like in hospital in China, I can tell you, if the nosocomial's don't getcha, the food will!
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Dr Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Sun Dec 27th, 2009 23:57 |
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As I looked out my window this morning I was struck by the amount of new construction in China. Their stimulus funds have been put primarily into infrastructure, and the results are starting to show.
Here is a panorama from my hotel window:
(Click image for bigger version)
Compared with my visit last June, there is a totally new 30 story building under construction at the far left, and a 6 story to its right. In the middle distance I see a skyscraper extension, with an old-building restoration in front of that, and to the far right is another new building in front of the stadium.
Quite an amazing transformation since I was last here...
..Trevor..
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janiceh
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Posted: Mon Dec 28th, 2009 14:16 |
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| Amazing pictures - thank you..... J
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marysue
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Posted: Thu Dec 31st, 2009 05:14 |
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Thanks for the pics and the online cultural experience! I'm just catching up with the latest posts--what a joy to see cool pics from the streets of China! I'm looking forward to hearing more about implementing the clinical trial.
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Dr Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Sat Jan 2nd, 2010 23:53 |
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OK, I am back home now Two sights I want to share with you.
First, I flew to Beijing on the first flight of the morning (7:50am) as the Changsha airport was closed for landings (due to fog), so I took an aircraft already on the ground That gave me 11 hours to kill in Beijing so I decided to explore the subway system.
All I need to say is that the announcements on the trains, and all the signs, are repeated in English, so I enjoyed the trip immensely. There is a subway stop called "Tiananmen East" and that seemed like a good place to go spend some time
The temperature was minus 12 degrees centigrade, with a little wind chill as well, which I somehow survived with my lightweight travel-kit Anyway, I will spare you the obligatory photo of Chairman Mau's Mausoleum, take it 'as read', and instead show the immense woodwork holding up a Ming Dynasty temple in the 'Beijing Workers Cultural Park'.
There is a wonderful collection of bells here, but what really fascinated me was the craftsmanship of the old roof. An amazing building (the kid wearing the red coat gives some idea of the size of everything...)
And finally, as I was leaving the airport, this booth caught my attention. Erected by the airport authorities to give out information about what you could, and could not, take on flights.
The wonderful translation to the word "propaganda" was primarily what caught my eye...
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leroybrown
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Posted: Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 03:26 |
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Wow, they sure don't make Ming Dynasty temples like they used to  ... amazing to see all that detail & craftsmanship.
I didn't know Beijing got that cold - was there snow?
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janiceh
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Posted: Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 04:10 |
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| Thank you.... so amazing....... carpenter....Janice
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Dr Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 05:05 |
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I didn't know Beijing got that cold - was there snow?
Here is a photo of the moat outside the temple. Frozen solid, and feet thick. Compare with the third image from the top on this page...
But there was no actual snow while I was there...
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ChrisMavo
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Posted: Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 07:09 |
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Thanks for sharing the fascinating pics Dr Marshall....
Brrrrrrrrrrr...
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leroybrown
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Posted: Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 12:33 |
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If that was here there'd be skating!
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Dr Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 17:34 |
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News headlines today:Snow snarls air, road travel in Beijing
300,000 deployed to shovel unusually heavy snowfall in Chinese capital
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34673083/ns/weather/
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marysue
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Posted: Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 18:15 |
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That would have been pretty to see all the snow....
But, it sure looks like you got out of their just in the nick of time!
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leroybrown
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Posted: Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 19:58 |
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That's quite a bit of snow all at once for a city that isn't used to it, and pretty darn cold too!
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