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Posted: Sun Apr 13th, 2008 04:24 |
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Thanks Ruth - The government Bureaucracy is completely overwhelming in it's complexity.
There is no information on Olmesartan at any of the health canada databases.
I'm taking the position that there is no patent or relevant legislation that should discourage the legitimate use of the compound or chemical substance known as Olmesartan for use as an anti-inflammatory agent in Canada.
This is not a new compound and it's effects are well known.
On the other hand If someone has a prescription for benicar specifically for it's ability to modify heart function and that prescription results in their receiving Olmesartan rather than the brand name Benicar that is a completely different matter and does deny the patent holder their legal right.
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Posted: Sun Apr 13th, 2008 07:27 |
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I live in vancouver and have been obtaining Benicar in the form of Olmesartan 40mg from Montreal from the Yetvart Paylan Pharmacien 8897 Lajeunesse Montreal H2M1R8 tel 514 382 5921 It is time release form and they have an agreement with my Physician to fill repeat orders when I or wanyone else requires it phones directly. They can ship it ordinary mail or special delivery. Allow 2 weeks to be safe. They will not ship on a Friday so it is best to phone on a Friday and have it made up on the Sunday and shipped out on Monday so it does not hang around over the weekend. They are easy to deal with and I charge it to my visa card. Hope this helps.
Moderator note: See Sources of Benicar
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Ruth Goold
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Posted: Fri Apr 25th, 2008 05:35 |
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Try the following pharmacy in Montreal:
La Pharmacie Obonsoins Yetvart Paylan
8897 Boul. Lajeunesse
Montréal, Québec
H2M 1R8 CANADA
tel: 514-382-5921
fax: 514-382-5415
E-mail: yetvart@hyperidrosis.com
Website: http://www.hyperidrose.com/index_en.htm
You can specify either time-release(TR) or non-time-release (NonTR) capsules.
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Maureensew
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Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 08:22 |
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| I just received my first prescription from Yetvart Paylan. The process was very smooth and simple. I read through the info since 2005 about Canadians buying Benicar. I want to thank everyone who has been part of pursuing this reasonably priced, convenient pharmacy from which Canadians can buy Benicar. The information about time release/not time release, dosages and daily schedules has been very helpful.
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White Falcon
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 21:00 |
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I have had my prescriptions filled by both the Ottawa and the Montreal pharmacies. Montreal pharmacy cost $70 more for the same 3 month prescription, the capsules are dark red (Ottawa used clear caps). For now, it's better than nothing, but who knows how long it will continue?
AS far as crossing the border to the US for a prescription, I have done that before, too. You are allowed to bring back prescription medications, 3 month supply, for personal use only. I think you have to get it and bring it back yourself, but a phone call to Canada Border Services should clarify if it can be mailed or brought back by someone else. They may want to see the actual prescription, which you won't have, because you have to give it to the pharmacist. So it's a good idea to make a photocopy of the script before you fill it. I brought back tramadol pain meds before it was approved in Canada, about 200 tabs (a lot), and there was no problem. They didn't even ask to see anything, but it depends on the mood of the agent you get.
Washington state pharmacies will fill prescriptions from BC doctors for drugs that are not considered narcotics (schedule whatever DEA controlled etc). Benicar should be fine. I was not able to fill a script for Ambien because the BC doc was not licenced by the DEA for that schedule/class drug. Tramadol was okay, but not Ambien. As far as having enough pills on hand to fill a 360 pill script, a phone call ahead of time might be a good idea. They would probably be willing to order it in for you - pharmacies here frequently don't have what I get prescribed but they can get it within a day. It's probably the same in the States.
The best thing, of course, would be for Health Canada to approve benicar in Canada. Then my insurance would pay for it. That would be very nice.
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 20:42 |
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Hi White Falcon,
Did you notice that the Benicar from Montreal (red caps) are somewhat smaller than the Ottawa caps? Also do you find they work the same?
Thanks Deborah
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White Falcon
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 21:54 |
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Hi Deborah,
Yes the red capsules are smaller and didn't smell as strong. They are the identical capsules that my other pharmacy used for compounding my clindamycin, so that has been an added nuisance - I can't tell which is which, so I can't put them together in a pill case! Anyhow, I thought the red caps didn't work as well and I asked my doctor about it. He said that some people have noticed the opposite - they think the red caps work better. So who knows?
I have tried to order generic olemsartan from Canadian pharmacies over the internet . They make it extremely difficult. Apparently it's because of a licencing issue with the international supplier who won't sell to Canadians. the Cdn pharmacy sends the prescription to this international pharmacy and as soon as they see a Canadian doctor or Canadian shipping address, they won't fill the prescription. You would have to find a US doctor and ship to a US address. The pharmacy I talked to also required payment with a US credit card, even though they are located in Langley, BC. Price is 66 cents each as compared to $1.05 each from Montreal (not including shipping). Costco.com and Rite Aid in Bellingham only sell the brand-name Benicar for way more money.
So for now, I just ordered another 360 capsules (3 month supply) from Montreal for about $390 (incl $15 shipping). My insurance (Pacific Blue Cross) won't pay because the drug is not approved by Health Canada.
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Ruth Goold
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Posted: Sat Dec 20th, 2008 08:58 |
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Here is some info for Canadians:
Olmesartan has been approved for use in Canada (finally). Schering-Plough received a NOC (Notice of Compliance) for it on Oct. 28, 2008. It will be called Olmetec and the DIN (drug identification number) for the 40 mg tablet is 02318679. It is not yet listed in the DPD (drug product database) which, I think, means that Schering-Plough has not yet notified Health Canada of its intention to market the drug. Nevertheless, the NOC should provide a basis for protest for those of us who have had insurance coverage for olmesartan denied on the basis that the drug was not approved for use in Canada.
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Posted: Sat Dec 20th, 2008 15:46 |
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Thanks for this awesome news, Ruth!!
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Posted: Sat Dec 20th, 2008 18:57 |
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thank you
This is great news. One of the reasons i stopped the MP was the cost of the Olmesartan. It became difficult for me to afford. Does this mean it will be covered now by insurance?
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Kas
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Posted: Sat Dec 20th, 2008 20:43 |
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Great news indeed! If our med insurance covers this, it will mean a substantial saving for many of us and also make the MP more accessible to so many more Canadians.
Thank you, Ruth, for getting this info for us.
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White Falcon
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Posted: Mon Dec 22nd, 2008 22:04 |
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Thanks for letting us know. This is very good news. I've emailed my doctor and my pharmacist to let them know, too, and find out when we can actually get a script filled. This news is a nice Christmas present!
It would probably be good for people to start asking their pharmacists now, so they know there is interest, and they can try and start ordering it, even without an immediate prescription.
My husband just got his script filled on Dec 13 from Yetvart in Quebec. I will try and argue with Blue Cross about paying for it, since it's after the Oct. approval date - it's $375, so worth a try. The receipt does not have the DIN so that might be a problem.
I noticed that the Notice of Compliance also included other strengths and the Plus version with a diuretic, so people will have to be careful they get the right stuff.
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Posted: Fri Dec 26th, 2008 06:05 |
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Hi White Falcon,
I am sure you already have the DIN number for Olmetec, but its
"It will be called Olmetec and the DIN (drug identification number) for the 40 mg tablet is 02318679." to quote.
in case you didnt.
Cheers,
Elyse
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Posted: Fri Dec 26th, 2008 21:40 |
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Hi Folks,
I called Schering-Plough on Dec 23rd asking when the Olmetec would be available in Canada....A pharmacist returned my call, (leaving me a message), as I was out at the time...They said there is no release date as of yet for the Olmetec...uhh!
I wonder if it would help speed up the process if we all started calling requesting it....or would this make matters worse? ie -Are they aware of how much we MP'ers are taking per day and that there is already a pharmacy in Canada selling it in the compounded version....If they are not aware of this, perhaps it would be better to just sit tight and not say a word....as I am sure there must be some kind of conflict with the pharmacy selling it and the patent rights?
Anyone have any idea how this all works?....
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Kas
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Posted: Fri Dec 26th, 2008 22:01 |
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I am not sure how this works, but I would suggest not rocking the boat right now. We do not want to jeopardise our supply from the Montreal Pharmacy. If they get word of this, they may stop making up the compounded benicar and that would leave many of us stranded.
With the economy the way it is right now, it is easier for most of us to buy our benicar locally, rather than having to import it from the US or other countries.
I have a good friend who is a pharmacist and owns her own place, so after the holidays, I will give her a call and ask her what the procedure is and how long it should take to get it into dispensaries.
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Posted: Fri Dec 26th, 2008 23:33 |
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Kas,
Yes, I think you're right...best not to do anything right now...When you find out more info from your pharmacist friend, perhaps you could fill us all in.
Thanks!!
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Kas
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Posted: Tue Dec 30th, 2008 17:21 |
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I spoke to my pharmacist friend today and she is going to find out everything for us asap.
As soon as I know, I will report back here.
Happy, healthier New Year everyone!
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White Falcon
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Posted: Thu Jan 8th, 2009 16:24 |
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I spoke with a rep from the Medical Information dept at Schering-Plough. She said that no date has been set for the sale of olmesartan. I did not get the impression that she had tried very hard to find out. She couldn't even give me a guess as to whether we are looking at weeks, months, or years. Nothing. She suggested I call back in a month, and maybe they would have a date then.
The number to call is 1-800-463-5442. Maybe if more people call, they might get the message that people are interested, and get going on it. I made no mention of my dosage, or that I'm already taking it, or where I get it from. There's no need to tell them that. I've asked my local pharmacist, too.
I've also heard from another patient that Yetvart cannot use the new DIN. Has anyone else talked to him about this?
Last edited on Thu Jan 8th, 2009 16:34 by White Falcon
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Posted: Fri Feb 20th, 2009 18:35 |
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Good News.
Olmetec will be available at Shoppers Drug Mart some time next week!!!!!! I got the info from Schering-Plough and then confirmed at Shoppers Drug Mart.
Cheers Deborah
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Kas
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Posted: Fri Feb 20th, 2009 19:33 |
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Thank you so much for this, Deb!!
It will certainly help many of us to get it covered, but Yetvart is going to lose all his business here, sadly. I ordered enough from him for the next three months, but I am definitely going to go the Shoppers' route next time around- if I can just remain on the MP!!!!!
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