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Aussie Barb EDIT: these small doses of minocycline are no longer recommended. Aussie Barb's Progress Report Benicar Day 30 Friday September 10th Benicar 20mg Q3 - 4h Day; 40mg @ 9pm then 20mg prn ie Q3 - 4 h Night. = 4 tabs per day: Q for herx only. sleeping nicely. woke 2.40am. took 20mg Benicar. slept. very tired. so extending Benicar out to q4h to see how it feels. I check Journal. stable except for time adjusting to NoIR glasses. am on the edge of Depression all the time today. tried the NPS. (later edit: reason?>> I did it again!!!!!  > I slept in & forgot thyroxine. so I'm obviously a long way from Hyper yet  was sticking to my bed, being quiet to keep it suppressed. am quite weak. am really steady. MINO Comm: 50mg tablet > divide in 4 = 12.5mg > crush & divide in 4 = 3+mg > divide in 2 = 1.5mg Friday 10am. (squashed onto the end of a banana) next mino due to look at Sunday morning.... depending on how going?? maybe 3mg? feel *good heavy aura* in sinus & upper teeth, slight itching face, scalp. |
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I spoke too soon, you ARE here!  |
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I hope all goes well for you on the full protocol my fellow int MP ette!My best to you, CelticLadee int MP ette |
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Thank You CelticLadee for such an amazing Welcome!! xx & Thank You Queenie Reenie & Lilly ... I feel so very Blessed xx Day 1 Mino Friday September 10th Day 30 Benicar change >Benicar 20mg Q4h Day; 40mg @ 9pm = 3 tabs per day: Q for herx only. took first antibiotic........ 1.5 mg!!!!! is all... ( divided a small 50mg tablet to get that.) .......... the full Marshall Protocol potentiates the mino action so powerfully, and IMO I was better to do my "mino probe" than take the risk of hurting myself. feeling better and worse at different times. *all over the shop* . weak giddy and then better. gut disturbed then settled. very steady Girl. Day 2 Mino Saturday September 11th 7.45pm post. Benicar 20mg Q4h Day; 40mg @ 9pm = 3 tabs per day: Q for herx only. slept thru better last night. woke feeling better than I have for a few days. ahhh gut> probiotics some chest pressure. s.o.b & giddiness, on exertion, this afternoon / tonight.. all heavy enough sx but bearable, managable with being sedentary. husb is away for 24 hours from tonight; and he has asked me to not have mino while he's so far away, and it being Sunday tomorrow. and we have no other support around. happily living the isolated CFS life in a new Community this last 3 years, I have no support nearby at all. I hadn't thought about this before.  hmm... later edit: my husb reminds me (<brainfogged) that we do know ppl I could call. it's just that we don't have a lot of contact with them. will see in the morning how I'm feeling re chest pressure etcccccc... before making any decisions..Last edited on Sat Sep 11th, 2004 18:02 by Aussie Barb |
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Day 3 Mino Sunday September 12th Benicar 20mg Q4h Day; 40mg @ 9pm = 3 tabs per day: Q for herx only. slept well with a couple of wakes. woke with some *good* pressure on sinuses, upper teeth chest is ok this morning. maybe a *clearer* feel. like the *good* pressure (above). gut is ok. 8am up Mino: took 2.- mg (1/24th of 50mg tablet)   I write down as I divide it up, so that I don't lose track.. with my brainfog I need to do this being on the mino made me feel better already I can feel it pick me up. separate / apart from the discomforts. Happy Me  eyes are feeling hot. Last edited on Sun Sep 12th, 2004 03:43 by Aussie Barb |
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Barb, I am so pleased and happy for you !!! You are an inspiration to me. You go girl!! Love, hugs, Lilly |
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omggggggg You Ppl are so wonderful.... *shakes head*..... Thank You Lilly xxx mwa mwa CONT> Day 3 Mino Sunday September 12th Benicar 20mg Q4h Day; 40mg @ 9pm = 3 tabs per day: Q for herx only this MP experience is like no other!!!! it is amazing!!!! good to have the training ground Thanks Trevor.. 2pm.I can feel pressure like in a tight drum in my upper resp / chest..... all from 2mg mino within the MP structure. something sure happening. I am so happy, excited. have been weak, very steady, resting all day. sinuses feel clear!! 5pm some liver pressure. Benicar helps, and probiotics absolutely nec BD husb home. all is well Last edited on Sun Sep 12th, 2004 11:23 by Aussie Barb |
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Day 4 Mino Monday September 13th <(singing) Happy Birthday to Me 54 today, I've got the Key to the Door, never had MP before...... Benicar 20mg Q4h Day; 40mg @ 9pm = 3 tabs per day: Q for herx only. slept well with a couple of wakes. Not one part of me feels better today !!! My chest is so very completely tired.... I've clung to the bed.... except that I did get up to check on My MP Buddies from time to time and also to have some choccy cake and icecream for a pleasant change from the usually sensible diet My Very Best Wishes to You All, and Thank You for all You are to Me Barb Happy Birthday Paulscha xxxx |
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY BARB!!! Love, Jo. (UK)xxxxxxxxxx |
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Today is also my little 5 yr. old angel, grand daughter's birthday - two angels were born on the 13th. Hope your chest situation is relieved with the Q today Barb. Hang in there girl. Mmmmmmmmmm chocolate cake and ice cream sounds so good. It's been 3 years since I've tasted that wonderful flavor. Enjoy it for me too. All my best to you, CelticLadee Last edited on Mon Sep 13th, 2004 17:09 by CelticLadee |
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kisses huggss xoxoxoxoxx |
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Happy Birthday Barb !!!!!! .... and an even Happier Birthday next year at this time !!!!!! Hang in there girl.... and have an extra piece of choccy for me Last edited on Tue Sep 14th, 2004 10:10 by Renee_RN |
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Day 5 Mino Tuesday September 14th Benicar 20mg Q4h Day; 40mg @ 9pm = 3 tabs per day: Q for herx only. slept well with a couple of wakes. 10am up Mino: took 3.- mg I'm so impatient I'm wanting to take some every day...I am so very tired...feeling unable to communicate... unable to *do.... not much to tell... resting.... except that I check on My MP Buddies from time to time My face & throat are a little itchy like old hayfever days. have to take the probiotics to keep *that all happening.. Today I've bordered on depression very slightly...feeling sick of MySelf and then I'm given a lift by revisiting all Your Wonderful Messages..... Thank You So Much.... all is very well, I'm a happy Girl My Very Best Wishes to You All, and Thank You for all You are to Me Barb |
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A quote that tickled me today : I intend to live forever........ so far, so good........ |
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Day 7 Mino Thursday September 16th Benicar 20mg Q3-4h Day; 40mg @ 9pm = 3 or 3 ½ tabs per day: Q for herx only. Probiotics slept well with a couple of wakes. 10am up Mino: took 3.- mg feel yick in a couple of minutes. and then ok.last couple of days I am so very tired...feeling unable to communicate... unable to *do.... not much to tell... resting.... doing minimum I've been varying the Benicar dose timing between 3 and 4 hrly to see if I'm any less tired, or if I have any more reaction on more often.... but I'm too tired to know what the result is I did come alive for a little while last night and did a bit My face & throat are a little itchy, sneeze blow etc... seems to drop to less of a problem if I rest. have to take the probiotics to keep *that all happening.. otherwise I'm fine z z z z z z z z z z z z z |
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Day 7 Mino Thursday September 16th continued 8pm I'm wondering about this nose do addicts who need a fix have a running nose?is this happening because I'm lowering the high 1,25D level in my (1,25D addicted) body? interesting thought .... I'm very conscious of the inflammation within my body. my body is working, tired... & I'm dealing with a lot mentally emotionally Familiarly beside the MP..... and I'm resting, managing, taking care.... and I'm doing fine, all is well |
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Day 8 Mino Friday September 17th 4pm Benicar 20mg Q3h Day; 40mg @ 9pm = 4 tabs per day: Q for herx only. Probiotics slept so well not mino day today. taking the Benicar 20mg 3 hourly cos I have a high 1,25D load, and to get that bacteria load accessed. I've also noticed more balance to Insulin .. with the cutting light/D and prob the Benicar nose run sneeze blow etc business continues and I see others mention they have it too. all my adult life this has happened with me whenever my Immune System has been challenged.. resting helps. my body is working, very tired...I'm quiet, resting, managing, taking care.... and I'm Ok Meg says> at http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum11/650.html My experience has been a brief increase in symptoms 1-2 hours post ABX which I attribute to the initial kill and then another increase in symptoms the second day which I attribute to the Herxheimer reaction as the inflammation briefly flares in response to the endotoxins released by the dying bacteria. << Barb says> this afternoon I can clearly ID with this... I feel the flare in the inflammation particularly ?liver area. |
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Day 9 Mino Saturday September 18th 6am 37days on Benicar: 20mg Q3h Day; 40mg @ 9pm = 4 tabs per day: Q for herx only. Probiotics slept so well. woke feeling ready to go to battle again... I get a bit battle weary inbetween.I have a terrible cramp like feeling in the muscles on my ribs under my right arm.. and down my arm.... I've had it before... years ago... is like having been bitten by a heap of ants owwwwwww 7am painful cramping gone after an hour or so mino 5mg 10am. Last edited on Sat Sep 18th, 2004 00:58 by Aussie Barb |
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Day11 Mino Monday September 20th 8am ish An OverView 39 days on Benicar: 20mg Q3h Day; 40mg @ 9pm = 3 ½ to 4 tabs per day: Q for herx only. Probiotics BD slept well. sleeping well generally. only a couple of wakes if any. Mino morning: woke feeling ready to go to battle again... I'm always eager to take the mino again. I get a bit battle weary inbetween. I have to keep the goal and my Supporters in mind thanks all Symptoms: I realise I've not had a headache since beginning MP. that is a Miracle in itself. any other symptoms I have are slight, transient, managable. ie within the fact that I cannot, do not go out to work because of the CFS. the symptoms of mucus throat, depression and fragility can usually be managed by taking my meds... thyroxine & Natural Progesterone Spray. I experienced the positive consequences of cutting exposure to sun / lights / D. and athough I live in always sunny Australia, the sun is not a problem for me because; 1. I drew the drapes and dropped the blinds. and shut off any particularly light rooms. 2. I wear my NoIR glasses. 3. I don't need to go out for anything, my husband goes. 4. I'm not well enough yet to want to go out. and.... 5. if I do have to go.... to the Dr etc.. I have my Cape and Scarf and gloves etc... or in the garden I go early morning or dusk I stay undercover/s easily have a rest or nap during the day. I'm happy that MP is designed for us to be able to manage the degree of herx ourselves by lowering the abx and upping the Benicar.. what more could we want the 1,25D tests are only reliable if frozen. cos they deteriorate to less otherwise. my first test was high enough anyway, and it appears we cannot depend on our lab as some of the Staff are saying there is no need for it to be frozen *anymore*; and the tests are done only once per week, so they are sitting around waiting. so I'm going cautiously anyway. I rang the Lab this morning & was told that all serums transit on ice at 4C degrees & are frozen on arrival. and all 1,25Ds are thawed & tested on the Tuesday. Aug:1,25D>51.5: 25D no result Sept: 1,25D>34; & 25D>35 BP: I don't track my BP. I've always had a very low BP even when I was maniacally active If I'm feeling very low, there is only one thing I'll be doing... getting horizontal on a bed.... no taking BP for me. Benicar: I take my Benicar 20mg (half tablet) q3h day which is equal to 40mg (full tablet) q6h. this dosing suits me best. and I use a timer around the clock. Quercetin: I have on hand for use for managing herx . I've used it only x 2, I think; when I had chest pressure and it was relieved immediately. Probiotics: to keep the IBS controlled. mino 6.25mg 10am today. I divide the 50mg tablet with a tablet splitter, = 25mg; divide, =12.5mg; crush & divide = 6.25mg.I'm expecting Family visitors this week Last edited on Mon Sep 20th, 2004 02:21 by Aussie Barb |
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Day 13 Mino Wednesday September 22nd 8.30am ish Benicar: 20mg Q3h Day; 40mg @ 9pm = 3 ½ to 4 tabs per day: Q for herx only. Probiotics BD symptoms: stiffness soreness in tailbone persists when I get up from computer had a quick stab in 1 breast then the other. then gone. I feel slightly *better*.... ? had to ponder how...... it is that I feel *less poison* than for a while... perhaps that is less inflammation? so that has to be a good thing Probiotics BD are good slept well. sleeping well generally. only a couple of wakes. mino 9mg due 10am today. last mino dose (6mg) made me more dizzy for longer... but was all managable by going steady.. =============================== We have Family visiting. I feel better this morning than last night. Last night ... tired... too much sensory overload.. I manage it all but essentially was not coping within me. I so love seeing them, having them here... I love to be able to let the kids have this opportunity to have a holiday...... by the end of the day whether I liked it or not I was overloaded.. I wait till they've eaten and are away from the table.. keep separate to help myself as much as I can. The sick one coughed thru the night... I am so thankful it's not me seeing to sick kids anymore ... phew!!! they will all be going out for the day soon. this made it clear to me why I moved to here and why I need to live a quiet life yet.  I can't even bear to play my favourite music for years now..============================= I found a website to calculate my # of days for me http://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html So far: I have been alive 19733 days for some of them I think I have been half alive cut D exp 72 days Noir 22 days Benicar 41 days ABx 12 days ================== |
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Thanks that reminds me that enjoying Music is another part of Good Health that I shall be looking forward to. I have really lost all comprehension of what good health may even entail. I have learned so well to live & enjoy My Life within my abilities. Day 15 Mino Thursday September 24th 7.40am ish Benicar: 20mg Q3h Day; 40mg @ 9pm = 3 ½ to 4 tabs per day: Q for herx only. Probiotics BD are good symptoms: stiffness soreness in tailbone persists when I get up from computer no more sniffy nose lately slept well. last mino dose (9mg) I felt nothing really that day, and then the 2nd day I had mild transient Herx of scalp is sore to touch.(like when having the flu), being fragile (different to usual), a little nauseous, shaky inside (again, different to usual), nose membranes heat, >sore palate/throat, face itch, feeling inflamed diaphragm area; was all managable & bearable. all herx symptoms resolved now so >> mino 9mg due 10am today. |
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Link to my Benicar only Reports http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum19/379.html |
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Day 16 Mino Saturday September 25th 6am ish (oops named yesterday Thursday.. not Friday... well it was Thursday in the US I suppose Benicar: 20mg Q3h Day; 40mg @ 9pm = 3 ½ to 4 tabs per day: Q for herx only. Probiotics BD + prn are good symptoms: stiffness soreness in tailbone persists when I get up from computer sniffy nose (transient) again after mino yest. otherwise no other symptoms. able to do some cleaning (after holiday visitors gone). Probiotics x 3!! yest for IBS (with good relief each time)slept well. woke this morning 3.40am.... surprise ! <dizzy. took my Benicar 20mg. was mild enough & didn't last long. also mildly itchy face & scalp. very tired. going back to bed. Last edited on Fri Sep 24th, 2004 22:09 by Aussie Barb |
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Day 16 Mino Saturday September 25th continued.... 8pm ish After a week of visitors and then the tidy after, today I've been very tired. then this afternoon Payback (post exertional malaise) came to visit. It was interesting to observe my first experience of payback within the new MP circumstances. Symptoms, came as usual, after a rest... inner fragile feeling and brink of depression feeling were much milder & passed more quickly than usual. My NPS, usual Benicar 20mg dose, probiotics, and something to eat all helped.. and then came some nausea.. and not so mild diaphragmic inflammation.... and I took the next Benicar 20mg an hour sooner, and lay down flat to ease the pressure ... all helped some in time. *the Tooth* as well as gum area, top upper left feels *different..don't know how to articulate and strange with pressure (so don't do pressure nasal membranes become drier hotter feel from Benicar. is all good. Mino due tomorrow. will take 9mg again. |
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Day 17 Mino Sunday September 26th 6.30am ish Benicar: 20mg Q3h Day; 40mg @ 9pm = 3 ½ to 4 tabs per day: Q for herx only. Probiotics BD + prn are good Probiotics x 3 yesterday again. I found it best to take it as soon as belly rumbles before it gets any worse. & it helps me overall as well. Disease symptom: stiffness soreness in tailbone persists when I get up from computer slept well. woke this morning anxiety(still from *catchup*), very weak, can feel gum & tooth, nasal / palate dry & heat (good) took my meds. Symptoms are mild enough or at least bearable & didn't last long. sense of smell & taste is acuter at times Mino 9mg today |
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Hello there Aussie Barb, Glad you are recooping from all the excitement in your household. That tooth pressure is the darndest thing isn't it. I was almost ready to go to the dentist cause I could not chew on my right side. One of the crowned molars felt like a spike in my jaw and when I chewed on it hurt. It is getting better now so I am hoping the MP takes care of it. Noted you are also on 9 mg. I had more trouble starting 6 mg. than 9 mg. isn't that interesting? Hoping your time on 9 goes well for ya. Just wondering if you ever take epsom salt baths too help your sore tailbone, etc.? It seems to help my soreness so I take one every other day. I put 8 oz. of epsom salt in the garden tub and soak for 1/2 hour while reading a good book. It is my special time! CelticLadee, your fellow itd MP ette |
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Thank You CelticLady This is Day 18 Mino Monday September 27th 7am ish Benicar: 20mg Q3h Day; 40mg @ 9pm = 3 ½ to 4 tabs per day: Quercetin for herx only. Probiotics TDS are good On 9mg mino I am definitely needing the Probiotics TDS. is good to know things are happening. Sticky eye, mucus cough, Gum & Tooth relieved by mino dose yesterday. I can feel a small upward trend I have no headaches anymore either!!! I can have the feel of one coming and take my Benicar dose and it disappears. I have a *hotspot* just left of mid upper abdo... ears feel *wet* inside most of the time. I am tired, so I rest, sleep. Slept well. Mino n/a today So far for Me MP is bearable and managable with ease. part of managing MySelf, is first taking care of me re rest and avoiding light etcc... taking my meds. making the commitment.I absolutely believe in the science of MP, and there is plenty of proof of it working all around the Board. There is no way anyone could stop me from choosing MP . I am 110% all the way for doing this. Even though, at present, I have no comprehension whatsoever what good health is..... I am doing this as much for my kids, and for those ppl who will be coming after me.. & I am probably doing it because somewhere deep inside of me knows I can have better than I have. In this last 2 months gaining knowledge of MP, I am coming out of the denial that I didn't know I was in, that I have been in, - of trying to squash down the reality of how unwell I am.. I was in a type of positive attitude that saw me accepting and living what I had because I had no other options...... minimising my symptoms because I could not name them or fix them...... and now I can name them and I have Hope!!!... I have ppl ahead of me on MP who are showing me day by day that they are improving and they are getting a Life!!! I have learnt so much..... about MySelf as well. Thank You All zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Last edited on Mon Sep 27th, 2004 04:10 by Aussie Barb |
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This is Day 19 Mino Tuesday September 28th 8.45am ish Benicar: 20mg Q3h Day; 40mg @ 9pm = 3 ½ to 4 tabs per day: Quercetin for herx only. Probiotics TDS. lemon drink. On 9mg mino I am definitely needing the Probiotics TDS. and then I remembered the lemon drink to open up the detox pathway!! ahh... so I had that... with relief of persistent IBS!! yes.. I have a *hotspot* just left of mid upper abdo... comes and goes. ears feel *wet* inside most of the time. all is well.... I am tired, so I rest, sleep........ inbetween my activity here on the Board Slept well. Mino 12.5mg today!! a milestone for me YAYY! |
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This is Day 21 Mino Thursday September 30th 6.15am ish Benicar: 20mg Q3h Day; 40mg @ 9pm = 3 ½ to 4 tabs per day: Quercetin for herx only. Probiotics BD. +lemon drink qod. lemon drink to open up the detox pathway!! keeps IBS at bay!! yes.. I have a *hotspot* just left of mid upper abdo... comes and goes. ? pancreas... I take it as all good work happening ears feel *wet* inside most of the time. I don't know how to describe this herx symptom. it comes and goes. I am not *sick* but I'm not *well*. I'm not in pain, I'm uncomfortable in the abdo, feels like big inflammation; like a hive of bees in there? but is all bearable. if anyone healthy had it they'd think they were really sick but I know it is all good work happening my hands still go to sleep when I'm sleeping, resting. I feel like there's an *aura* about my head / sinuses at times all is well.... I am tired, so I rest, sleep........ Slept well. I woke this morning and I could actually *do* something so I knew that I could take my mino again. Mino 12.5mg today plan to stay at 12.5mg for this week or assess re herxing. |
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How I've taken the Mino so far: every other day. increasing dose unless still herxing on that amount. and staying at what I shall call the *significant* or herxing levels for 3 doses before moving on. Friday September 10th: Day 30 Benicar: Day 1 Mino: Day 1 Friday September 10th: 1.5mg Day 3 Sunday September 12th 2.-mg Day 5 Tuesday September 14th 3.- mg Day 7 Thursday September 16th 3.- mg Day 9 Saturday September 18th 5mg Day 11 Monday September 20th 6.25mg Day 13 Wednesday September 22nd 9mg Day 15 Friday September 24th 9mg Day 17 Sunday September 26th 9mg Day 19 Tuesday September 28th 12.5mg Day 21 Thursday September 30th 12.5mg |
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This is Day 23 Mino Saturday October 2nd 8.15am ish Benicar: 20mg Q3h Day; 40mg @ 9pm = 3 ½ to 4 tabs per day: Quercetin for herx only. Probiotics BD+lemon drink qod. lemon drink to open up the detox pathway!! yes.. Slept well. Mino day today -skipping today plan to stay at 12.5mg for this week or assess re herxing.yesterday I had some chest/Heart herxing come & go. I had some congestion feeling in rib muscles. rubbed them and pressure hot water in shower... this would, pre MP, have usually given me a headache from the toxicity released...... but what it did this time was bring forth another symptom of toxicity for me..... a feeling of being plugged up in my bottom. probiotics> no use. lemon drink relief.My body has felt to be working at full capacity every day.................. and with what is happening for me.................... today I still have congestion in neck & rib muscles in particular................. am very tired all the time........ skin itching mild, eyes mild transient itching irritable, I have the *stress bumps* on my elbow, and the discussion about hormones (wanting to manage them steadily)> Impact of MP on Hormones Despite my being so impatient to keep on with the Mino I decided to give myself another day for my body to *catchup*. all is well.... I am bright enough otherwise Last edited on Fri Oct 1st, 2004 23:52 by Aussie Barb |
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Note: I am less prone to depression and fragility than I was. no headaches!!!! No Headaches!. < My Insulin Resistance does seem to be less symptomatic. I am still too tired and stufft, and completely disinterested in going anywhere yet. but on the other hand, I am quite happy here in the circumstances as they are, at the moment. |
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This is Day 24 Mino Sunday October 3rd 9.30am ish Benicar: 20mg Q3h Day; 40mg @ 9pm = 3 ½ to 4 tabs per day: Quercetin for herx only. Probiotics BD+lemon drink qod. My body has felt to be working at full capacity every day.................. Despite my being so impatient to keep on with the Mino I decided to give myself an extra day for my body to *catchup*. so mino skipped yesterday and I slept a great deal yesterday and felt very tired still last night. Slept well. and woke feeling ready to go to *work* at MP again this morning took 3rd dose of 12.5mg Mino It did me good to see Huey say this>> "However, I try to keep in mind that feeling good is not the goal of Phase One. It seems to me that if I start focusing on feeling good during Phase One, that I am setting myself up for an expectations trap. I should not expect to feel good during Phase One…my goal is to stay on the tolerable edge of a herx…and that means feeling poorly, and as Dr. M has said, "when you feel you are able" increase the dosage. " <<< ref: http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum20/424-2.html thanks Huey & thanks ((All)) for input & support around the Board another thing I'm conscious of is >>Dr Marshall on 25D level & Herxing: "Yes, the half-life of 25-D is about 2-4 months, so it does take a long time to be used up, and as it drops, your immune system will be able to attack the bacteria more effectively." ref: http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum11/882.html "we like to see folks understand what herx feels like before they progress to phase II. Herx can be delayed by other drugs, and it can be suppressed by high levels of 25-D, such as you have. From your initial value of 50ng/ml it might take as many as 4-6 months for that level to drop into a therapeutic range. I would want to see your 25-D down around 20ng/ml or so, before starting the really strong antibiotics. Otherwise there is a chance you will have serious cardiac herx (for example) when it finally begins to hit." ..Trevor.. ref: http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum11/880.html ] <<< My 25D was 35 1 month ago. (I'm presuming it is this level because of a protein supplement drink I had been Rx pre MP) all is well today & it is 1 day at a time |
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Barb says, "(Dr M says,) ... I would want to see your 25-D down around 20ng/ml or so, before starting the really strong antibiotics. Otherwise there is a chance you will have serious cardiac herx (for example) when it finally begins to hit." Wow Barb, thanks for that quote!!! I TOTALLY needed that reminder about the 25-D, since I've been focusing on the 1,25-D for herxing sxs and my 25-D is still very elevated. So when ppl, including me, would wonder how long to stay on the mino alone, this would help determine that. Another good reason NOT to proceed quickly in Phase 1. |
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This is Day 25 Mino Monday October 4th 7.15am ish Benicar: see below Quercetin for herx only. Probiotics BD BIG SORT OUT HERE! My body has felt to be working at full capacity every day...... and although I say that......I wondered - has it been *real* herxing..? all bearable and all managable seemed quite measly symptoms to me I was not feeling *better* and was needing the day off which I then took..... Despite my being so impatient to keep on with the Mino I decided to give myself an extra day for my body to *catchup*.I had been working the MP too hard. and yet seemingly not hard at all really. but I needed a rest from the constancy of it. and it helped. My main problem has been the Inflammation.... I can feel it particularly in my abdo... like a hive of bees on high alert.... not nice... +IBS ( with no relief by any means) so felt quite awful, blehh (PS later edit... having just written that I could try the Q... but as I had thought I *wasn't really* herxing very badly I hadn't considered it.. hehe On the extra day off mino but still on Benicar I slept very much and was very tired. and I did have relief by the next morning (yesterday)!! so it Was herx (toxicity) I was dealing with, as it did feel to be. I have been aware that my Immune System was usually easily kicked into action..... but apart from the Inflammation being *stirred up* now, wondered / asked, what did that mean? with the 25D at 35 was not sure what would could be happening? Then Thinking: The last 2 days I have experimented with extending the Benicar to 20mg x 4 hrly instead of 3 hrly... that was no good..... I became some depressed and more IBS...My 1,25D had come down last test...from 51 to 34... I have always felt that I have more Inflammation than this Test actually denotes.. can feel MUCH Inflammation ........ ponder..... & then AHA! of course..... the 1,25D will be paracrine, in the tissues....(ie inflammation) not all shown in the Blood Tests.. yess.. & My 25D was 35 ... still plenty of fuel for the fire. so, taking that info & the fact that this IS Inflammation I AM dealing with.. I decided to increase the Benicar to 40mg x 4 hrly.... ahhh relief I do feel better! ahh. IBS relief and Inflammation relief Slept well. except I was itching to get on here to write this all up Having Mother & Sister to visit today, so it's good to have improved for that Thanks to All on the Board (whose names are too numerous to mention for Your Encouragement, input & Support Best Wishes to Us All, Barb |
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This is Day 26 ABx Tuesday October 5th 7am ish Benicar: see below Quercetin for herx only. Probiotics BD Yesterday was a big day for me, having Family visiting. so I am really exhausted today so will not take the Mino today, will wait till I feel better than this. by tomorrow? Benicar: taking 20mg x 2 hrly was great.. helped IBS or inflammation probs took 40mg B @ bedtime & the need for B woke me in 6 hrs for next dose. I'll see where it takes me today. |
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This is Day 27 of "QOD" Mino Wednesday October 6th 9.30am ish Benicar: see below Quercetin for herx only. Probiotics BD Temporary Change of Plan: 1. Today being Wednesday; I am still so knocked flat from the day of Family visiting Monday (on which day I was taking my Benicar 20mg x 2hrly but was so distracted I could discern no other symptoms apart from tiredness 2. Due to a mishap with my indoor NoIRS, I am NoIRless till my next pair arrive. I tried using the outdoor NoIRs >> but found them too dark to use and require my using lights which in itself is self defeating.3. Yesterday I tried to see how far I could stretch the Benicar dosing....... and it would not be budged from the 20mg x 2 hrly. > that dosing relieves the buzzing inflammation and my IBS (which is gas in a paralysed gut... most uncomfortable) So.... due to all the above factors, Today I am continuing Benicar dosing as my Body decrees the need. ie 20mg x 2hrly atm. I am resting. and... not taking more Mino till I receive my new NoIRs and.... will then drop the mino dose back and ramp again.... This is the new plan ATM. |
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This is 8 weeks Benicar: 4 weeks / Day 28 on Mino Thursday October 7th 7 am ish Benicar: see below.... Probiotics BD No Mino till I have my replacement NoIRs & am stable again.Yesterday I was very exhausted still, & I needed the Benicar 20mg x 2 to 3 hrly during the day. I feel improved today, but still doughy. needing to rest yet. |
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This is Day 28 on Mino Thursday October 7th Benicar: see below.... Probiotics BD My body seems to be doing what it has always done on any treatment... it seems to have taken off on the killing spree... no need for any more catalytic mino at present.. ie. Give it the kick in the a** and away it goes........ I need the Benicar 20mg x 2hrly to keep inflammation in gut bearable.... otherwise the flare is unbearable... not pain but very inflammation / tight / discomfort the difference this time to any other treatment before, is that I have the Benicar as my Protector...... is good.... I am going thru times in the day when I wonder if I can keep it up......in the short times of depression and the fatigue and .... I do know rationally that I just have to do it *until*.......... it is not *all that bad*.... It is not anywhere near as bad as I have been thru before on other treatments ...... but neither do I want to ever do that again!!!!! it is not easy that's for sure.... is very hard work.. but I am doing it!!! that is the thing!!! The strange and Mysterious thing about this is that half the time I think it is nothing at all.. of course I am accustomed to bearing much.. The herxing is not dramatic... it is so subtle!! how can it be hard and easy at the same time.. ? I have no pain....only discomfort... and I have been very tired this last week.... after the visitors.. and the NPOS alleviated the depression & the paralysed gut when I'm not too brainfogged to remember to keep it up... |
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This is Day 29 on Mino Friday October 8th 6.55 pm ish Benicar: see below.... Probiotics BD Day 24 Mino Sunday October 3rd took 3rd dose of 12.5mg Mino & None since. a *mini holiday No Mino till I have my replacement NoIRs & am stable again.Yesterday I was very exhausted still, & I needed the Benicar 20mg x 2 hrly during the day. and go for 6 hours approx at night. Today I've been managing on Benicar 20mg x 3 hrly. I feel the *need of the benicar by the *flaring of the diaphragmatic Inflammation. have had rib muscle congestion again today.... massage with hot shower pressure... and this time stepped up the NPOS to overcome the toxicity effect of paralysed gut. I feel improved today, but still doughy. management is a big key. needing to rest yet. |
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This is Day 30 on Mino Saturday October 9th 1pm ish Benicar: see below.... Probiotics BD I am feeling a little more Human today... whew!!! but still needing to rest.The Benicar has settled to 20mg x 3hrly today... and very little inflammation symptoms. and was 40mg x 4hrly thru the night. otherwise I slept well. NPOS keeping IBS away when I remember to keep it up |
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This is Day 31 on Mino Sunday October 10th 1pm ish It is a week since I last took 12.5mg mino. and since I had NoIRs to wear.. waiting for mail Benicar: see below.... Probiotics BD Benicar 40mg for the night. I slept well. This is a most intriguing experience. NPOS taken regularly is keeping IBS away.. >>This morning my gut felt like a *space, instead of the IBS & inflammation! it felt *relieved... *relaxeder... ahhh...cause for celebration.. took Benicar 20mg x q3h in morning... & needed q2h again this afternoon when inflammation back again. is usual in afternoons, despite resting. This afternoon I have had the return of mild transient symptoms that I experienced when I was on Benicar only. and of course at present I am on Benicar only. Drawing in hips legs while resting; knees ache; sore hot *thick throat; chilly; then hot; little stabs in neck muscles; some mild anxiety; congestion in neck / upper back / rib muscles.... mildly sticky eye persists; chest mild pressure. + the diaphragmic inflammation. remembering to add: am *sick*; very tired; fragility just occurs suddenly, quickly gone. Last edited on Sun Oct 10th, 2004 09:21 by Aussie Barb |
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This is Day 32 on Mino page Monday October 11th 2.30pm ish Benicar: .... Probiotics BD It is 8 days since I last took 12.5mg mino. and since I had NoIRs to wear.. waiting for them in the mail This is a most Interesting & Intriguing Journey I am continuing to herx on Benicar Only.... and I'm waiting for my replacement NoIRs to come... and as I have no idea how long this will continue... well, as always..... everything is 1 day at a time.......... I am returning to the Benicar Only Reports @ Aussie Barb's Progress Report click here on page >>3 <<<< |
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