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Posted: Wed Oct 6th, 2004 00:34 |
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Day 35 on MP, October 5, Day 1 on minocycline, 3 mg
8:45PM 133/64/88 10:10PM 121/67/80
Well, I graduated to the next step, mino, today at 3:00PM, being mindful to not take mino within two hours of food. Since reading of some hard herxes on mino, and having high 125D (57) and very high 25D (61), I decided to ramp the mino slowly by taking only 3 mg to start. (See my previous report on Benicar-only for method of dividing the contents of a 50 mg capsule if you are just starting to view my report here.) I was surprised to see the color of the liquid. I thought it was more intense in color than I had expected. That might be an indication that even a little can go a long way in assisting to kill those buggers!
Little herxes to all! Thanks for making room for me!
George
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Posted: Wed Oct 6th, 2004 03:13 |
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Best of luck to you, George!
One question: I wasn't aware that you need to avoid food with mino, do you know if that's the case with all brands? (Doesn't seem to be in the instructions that came with mine).
Thanks,
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Posted: Wed Oct 6th, 2004 10:39 |
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Thanks, Marianne!!
The "Prescription Notes" that my pharmacist included with my minocycline said, "TAKE THIS MEDICINE with a full glass (8oz/240 ml) of water. DO NOT LIE DOWN for 30 minutes after taking this medicine. DO NOT TAKE THIS MEDICINE with food or milk unless otherwise directed. This medicine is sometimes taken with food or milk if it upsets your stomach. However, certain medicines, food, and milk may bind with minocycline preventing its full absorption. To avoid this problem take minocycline 2-3 hours before or after taking any food, milk or medicines/minerals, antacids, sucralfate, bismuth subsalicylate, iron and zinc." plus some instructions about storage. 
I would think that the P. Notes would apply to all brands since the active chemical is supposed to be the same for all brands of minocycline whether brand name or generic.
Good herxes to you! George
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Welcome to this part of town, George! Good luck and may all your herxes be tolerable - no.....mild!
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Posted: Wed Oct 6th, 2004 12:51 |
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Thanks, George, I'll avoid food with mino from now on then (only knew to avoid milk and dairy products) and see how it goes. My worst reaction so far was, come to think of it, on a day I just had a couple of crackers for lunch, which is when I take mino, so I guess that also indicates it is more effective without food. It'll be interesting to see if I can tolerate as much then or if I need to back off with dosing a bit.
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Posted: Wed Oct 6th, 2004 17:12 |
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Marianne L. says, "My worst reaction so far was, come to think of it, on a day I just had a couple of crackers for lunch, which is when I take mino, so I guess that also indicates it is more effective without food."
IMO, what you're saying sounds as though taking your mino w/food actually potentiated the mino rather than making it less effective. 
You reminded me of a discussion I had w/a Pharmacist about taking meds w/or w/o foods. He had told me that when you take meds w/food, sometimes you actually get a more pronounced effect, since you digest it more completely, while digesting your food. I thought it worked opposite of this, when taking meds w/food but it makes sense. I'm not sure if this is true w/all meds.
It's OK to take mino w/certain foods, since many ppl are using applesauce to divide mino and it seems to be working just fine. Dr M had recognized this dosing method as well. Dairy, certain supplements and drugs are to be avoided due to possible binding, as George pointed out. 
George, glad to see you here, FINALLY!!!
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Posted: Wed Oct 6th, 2004 18:17 |
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Reenie wrote: IMO, what you're saying sounds as though taking your mino w/food actually potentiated the mino rather than making it less effective.
Hi Reenie,
I'm not sure if it's a misunderstanding and I just didn't make myself clear so to clarify: Normally I've taken mino with a full meal but on the day I felt particularly bad I didn't have a proper lunch but only a few crackers before I took mino. Is this how you understood what I said?
George, sorry to "highjack" your thread with this, will start a new thread under General Discussion if I feel the need to post about the subject again, promise!
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Posted: Wed Oct 6th, 2004 18:32 |
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I think I may have misinterpreted what you said, Marianne. I thought you were implying you feel as well, when you took the mino w/crackers rather than on an empty stomach. I was thinking you may have had more of a herx, digesting it better w/food than w/o.
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Day 36, Oct 6, Day 2 on minocycline, Benicar Q6h
9:12AM 132/64/58 10:05AM 113/62/65
12:45PM 100/54/95 Had been doing errands about
5:30PM 107/59/72 7:30PM 105/56/70
10:00PM 128/66/67
Nothing unusual happened. Still had some leg spasms at night, a little dizziness and faint feeling when coming up form bent over, etc.
Day 37, Oct 7, Day 3 on minocycline, Benicar Q6h
9:50PM 106/61/89
Nothing unusual happened. Still had some leg spasms at night, a little dizziness and faint feeling when coming up form bent over, etc. Busy day! Missed the mino today inadvertantly.
Day 38, Oct 8, Day 4 on minocycline, Benicar Q6h
7:AM 83/48/81 4:15PM 105/56/70
Took 6mg mino at 4:15PM, otherwise nothing unusual happened. Still had some leg spasms at night, a little dizziness and faint feeling when coming up form bent over, etc.
Day 39, Oct 9, Day 5 on minocycline, Benicar Q6h
11:25AM 103/59/67 10:35PM 102/56/70
Nothing unusual happened. Still had some leg spasms at night, a little dizziness and faint feeling when coming up form bent over, etc.
Day 40, Oct 10, Day 6 on minocycline, Benicar Q6h
8:05AM 98/62/64 T97.2 5:35PM 113/69/65 T98.2
Took 6mg mino at 4:00PM. Was pleasantly surprised with feeling rather good with energy throughout the day up until about 9PM when started to fade with the sleep deficit that I had built up (maybe five hours per night for three nigths/days in a row, and broken with the leg spasms at night)! Had one very strong feeling of going to faint, but didn't, once when got up too fast... vision left me, had to hold on and stay still.
Day 41, Oct 11, Day 7 on minocycline, Benicar Q6h
10:50AM 103/55/59 T97.4 6:40PM 94/56/70 T97.6
Cleared the sleep deficit, sleeping in until 10:30AM, but awakening for my Benicar, and having leg spasms still during the night. However, I sure felt like I was herxing when I awoke at 10:30AM!!! All I wanted to do was go to bed/sleep... forget the world! Did not have the energy and good feeling of the previous day. This lasted until about 4PM.
So far, my herxes from abx for the last four and a half years have always been that feeling of wanting to go to bed/sleep... forget the world! So far, I have not had any bad muscle spasms (not counting the usual leg spasms at night) and other stuff. Guess I am lucky that way. I will take herxes like this one today.
Am modifying my q6h Benicar scheduling slightly so that I take a 40mg Benicar at 11:30PM, then at 6:30AM, so that I can have a seven hour stretch for sleep (except for tonight). I am hoping to get away from the sleep deficit that seems to get to me.
Since I herxed today, I will stay at 6mg of mino tomorrow.
Have lots going on in my life right now, so will not post every day. The best to all!!!
George
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Last edited on Tue Oct 12th, 2004 02:41 by GeorgeinRollaMO
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George,
I read on another post that someone said if they ate a banana each day the leg spasms improved significantly. I have back spasms but think it is related to my herniated disks.....Good luck, Debbie
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Day 42, October 12, Day 8 on Mino, Benicar q6h
8:20AM 95/56/55 T97.5 1:35PM 106/60/73 T98.4
11:00PM 94/55/82
Awoke feeling tired from not enough sleep... had 41/2 hours. Took 6 mg mino at 3:15PM. Had moderate herx about 2 - 3 hours later of about 2 - 3 hours duration. Just had a strong urge that I wanted to go to lie down and sleep. Overall, I would rate the day at fair. Some dizziness and feeling of going to faint when coming upright from bent over position persists. Went to bed around midnight.
Day 43, October 13, Day 9 on Mino, Benicar q6H
11:AM 105/63/62 T97.5 9:50PM 95/36/75 T98.3
10:05PM 98/50/76
Had leg/feet muscle spasms every hour on the hour, starting at around 1AM until 10:30AM when I arose. Intensity was as high as 7 out of 10. Had that particular wanting to sleep herx feeling that I get. Previous nights of the last two weeks or so had produced mostly two to three sets of muscle spasms during the night. I believe that my spasms were herx induced. Arose at 10:35AM. By 11:15 was feeling ok but not energetic. If the spasms were indeed herxing, I sure am glad that I am not at 25 mg mino!
Day 44, October 14, Day 10 on Mino, Benicar q6h
8:15AM 105/58/58 T97.5 7:00PM 106/52/77
Nothing really significant today. Took 6 mg mino at 3:00PM. Herxed about two hours later. Strong feeling of wanting to go to sleep which lasted about 3 hours in duration. Was trying to untangle and straighten out a bunch of wires going to telephones and computers and printer/fax. I had to stop. It was all a bunch of spagetti that I could not handle mentally. Later, I read a book on setting up a home/small office computer network, and had no trouble comprehending the material. Went to bed around midnight but woke up after an hour and a half sleep with insomnia for four-ish hours.
Day 45, October 15, Day 11 on Mino, Benicar q6h
11:25AM 105/60/66
Did not feel as though I had a herx in the morning as I thought I would. Somewhat energetic! Had to exert myself physically for a period of time in the afternoon which gave me trouble with strong feelings of going-to-faint at least four times, but I stopped and stayed still and the feeling went away. Actually, I had to bend over and exert at the same time. I would not desire to be a carpenter working on a roof and having to bend over from time to time. Lack of sleep last night got to me by 9:30PM, so I went to bed and sleep. But awoke at around 11:30, and now have insomnia. Thinking about going to 9mg of mino tomorrow. Still very much covered with hat, gloves, etc!!! Still getting the stares! I introduce myself these days as Dark Vadar!
Good herxes to all! George
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Re "Took 6 mg mino at 3:00PM. Herxed about two hours later. Strong feeling of wanting to go to sleep which lasted about 3 hours in duration. Was trying to untangle and straighten out a bunch of wires going to telephones and computers and printer/fax. I had to stop. It was all a bunch of spagetti that I could not handle mentally. Later, I read a book on setting up a home/small office computer network, and had no trouble comprehending the material. Went to bed around midnight but woke up after an hour and a half sleep with insomnia for four-ish hours."
"Had to exert myself physically for a period of time in the afternoon which gave me trouble with strong feelings of going-to-faint at least four times, but I stopped and stayed still and the feeling went away. Lack of sleep last night got to me by 9:30PM, so I went to bed and sleep. But awoke at around 11:30, and now have insomnia. " <<<
with respect.... I'm trying to understand why when you have herxed on 6mg would you be thinking of increasing the next dose?.... Thanks, Barb.....
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Posted: Sat Oct 16th, 2004 16:07 |
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Barb,
You are absolutely correct!!! I wrote that in the wee hours of the morning as I was getting ready to go back to sleep. Foggy brained?!?!?!?  Then, thought of it as I was lying there in bed. I will stay at 6 mg for the time being, and wait for NO herx before increasing the amount of mino.
Thanks, for reinforcing my later thoughts/better intentions!!!!! You are a good buddy!!!
George
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Day 46, October 16, Day 11 on Mino, Benicar q6h
3:15PM 98/57/73 9:40PM 113/56/76
Insomnia from 11:30PM last night until 2:30AM this morning. Awoke around 10:30AM. Arose about 11:30AM. Had a number of leg spasms but not the worse night for such. Felt as though I lacked energy after getting up. By 1:30PM, some energy flowed. By 3:00PM, I felt energetic, though I did have a dizzy aura about me. Later, the dizzy aura cleared up. Did not experience a herx as expected about two hours or so after taking the mino. By 9:00PM was sleepy as could be expected with the sleep deficient. By 11:30PM, the sleepiness was stronger than I would expect from the sleep deficient alone, so I took my midnight Benicar early, and went right to bed/sleep.
Day 47, October 17, Day 13 on Mino, Benicar q6h
4:25PM 126/53/69 T98.2
Slept solid until about 3:20AM. No leg spasms! Laid awake for awhile, then read my computer networking book about WEP, WPA, keys, passwords, VPN encryption, and such stuff that should have put me to sleep instantly but enthralled me until about 5:30PM, when I crashed, until about 11:30AMish, when my FIRST leg spasm of the night started to hit me. I had eaten 1/2 pint of Godiva Milk Chocolate Ice Cream after a late supper that I thought would drive me wild during the night with leg spasms. Wrong! I have to now think that that is not the trigger of the leg spasms. I have been feeling this afternoon as though I am herxing since getting up to eat and such. At 4:00PM, I am fighting a strong feeling of wanting to go back to sleep. Brain is in a dizzy, fog daze. I would not attempt anything of a complex nature whether computers, airplanes, or personal relations or whatever. I have Quercetin on hand but want to know just how far this herx is going. I sure am glad that I did not increase the mino to 9 mg as I had mentioned previously. As a reminder, I only took 6 mg yesterday at 3:00PM!
Thanks, Aussie Barb, for being a good buddy and reinforcing my changed intentions to stay at 6 mg of mino instead of going to 9 mg!!!
I feel today like I have felt in the past when taking two 250 mg tablets of Flagyl three times a day.... let me get off of this merry-go-round of life!!! All I want to do is crawl into the corner somewhere and go to sleep.
As a reminder, too, my Bowen Institute RIBb test that looks for the borrelia itself, done in the middle of April of this year, found the borrelia at Bowen's highest dilution ratio. I have a good load of the buggers!!!
Nighty, nite!!!
George
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George ole Buddy
I will just remind you of your options.. 
*such as if the herx does get too heavy: you have the Q & q4h Benicar
*& to wait till herx completely gone before next dose mino....
*& that you can decrease next mino dose to try if this herx has been a bit too heavy too..
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Day 48, October 18, Day 14 on Mino, Benicar q6h
9:35AM 125/59/76 4:55PM 112/58/71
Herx cleared by around 10:00PM last night. Had trouble going to sleep though. Had only about two hours of sleep last night. Had a few things on my mind that bugged me, and I kept thinking of them. But had NO leg muscle spasms during the night!!! And only a very slight feeling that one would develop in left foot in-step about the time I was arising a little after 8:00AM. I sure hope that this no-spasms holds up. I have been fooled before. Felt fairly good and somewhat energetic throughout the day. No herxing for sure! Did not notice any dizziness or tendency to feeling of going to faint like in the past days. But then, did not do any strenuous work today. At 4:00PM, decided that I would take 6mg of minocycline. Sure enough, by a little over two hours later, I was herxing. I put up with the herx until 7:30PM, when I took a 500 mg Quercetin to see what help I might get from that. By 45 minutes later, I do believe it is helping somewhat. I will report on it tomorrow. Paper work to do! 
George
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DAY 49, October 19, Day 15 on Mino, Benicar q6h
10:30PM 103/54/78
Had probably worse herx that I have ever had.... on only 6 mg of mino taken the afternoon before. Felt extremely lousy. Lasted most of day. Didn't get up until around noon. But nothing real bad, thankfully. I didn't but should have taken extra Benicar. But I've learned for next time.
Day 50, October 20, Day 16 on Mino, Benicar q6h
10:20AM 108/55/66
Herx of yesterday did not hang around for today. Felt rather energetic today! Almost tempted to forget Benicar and mino. Ha! Ha! Good thing I felt energetic yesterday on a/c had to drive two hours one way to regularly scheduled appt with my LLMD/PCP. He is following my results with much interest. When I told him I herxed on 6 mg of mino, he looked at me incredulously. Even asked me how I measured out just 6 mg! No mino today!
DAy 51, October 21, Day 17 on Mino, Benicar q6h
5:00PM 122/107/72 9:00PM 105/52/82
Mostly took a day off today! Wanted a rest from herxing and driving. Did not have a good rest last night. Not enough sleep. Running a sleep deficient today. Still having the faint feeling when bending over and upon coming up. Did take 3 mg of mino at 5:00PM. At 9:00PM, there might be a little bit of herx, but hard to tell what with the sleep deficient.
Night all! George
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Dark Vadar,
I'm glad Barb encouraged you NOT to go to 9mg, aren't you??? 
I don't know if you've been reading CelticLadee's insomniac posts... it seems to me, several of us are getting that fall asleep, then wide awake for several hours... periodically.
Mine has gone away for now... back to somnolence w/herx. I can't decide which sx I like better... sleeping like a cat or staying awake at night like a cat.
IMO, this is all due to hormonal fluctuations from herx.
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Day 52, October 22, Day 18 on mino, Benicar q6h
Mild herx in the morning from the 3 mg of mino taken at 5:00PM yesterday. Felt somewhat energetic in the afternoon.
Day 53, October 23, Day 19 on mino, Benicar q6h
8:55AM 90/52/69 6:40PM 114/52/66
8:45PM 111/55/71
Took a day off. Worked on computer hardware stuff! I am beginning to feel somewhat like my "ol'" self.... when I am not now herxing. But know that I cannot accept this as the end. I have to get rid of ALL of those buggers, or, they will be back with their pain, fatigue, etc for me. I am still staying indoors with long sleeve shirts on, NoIRs, and dodging Vit D things. My eyes are my best clue of whether I am getting too much light.... they will start burning. I do indulge with about a glass of Organic WHOLE milk per day. That has the least amount of Vit D in it of all of the milks... I think, about 8 or so units per glass versus in the order of 100 units per glass for the fortified stuff. And the whole tastes so wonderful! I had forgotten how great whole milk tastes. It is much like drinking melted Hagen Das vanilla (not vanillin-flavored) ice cream. Have I mentioned that I can now close my hands into a fist these days... easily! I had trouble holding a hammer before the MP.
Day 54, October 24, Day 20 on mino, Benicar q6h
9:45PM 102/53/93 MINO, 3 mg, at 2:55 PM
Felt good and somewhat energetic until about two to three hours after taking the mino. Then, had a mild herx of fatigue, and that peculiar feeling of being poisoned throughout the body. This 3 mg herx is much easier to have and go about the work of living life as compared to the 6 mg herx.
Day 55, October 25, Day 21 on mino, Benicar q6h
8:25AM 99/55/69
The mild herx continued throughout the morning, but was gone by afternoon. I was able to function almost as normal, like working on computer hardware stuff.
Day 56, October 26, Day 22 on mino, Benicar q6h
7:45PM 113/53/77 Mino, 4.5 mg, at 7:30PM
I spent the day driving my pickup with trailer to the St. Louis area to pick up some farm machinery... in the rain... two hours there and two hours back. Waited until evening to take my mino, and became almost uncontrollably sleepy again in the two to three hours later timeframe. I do not think that my great urge for sleep was the amount of work of the day. I had increased the amount of mino from 3 mg. I was asleep almost as soon as my head hit the pillow at 11:00PM, then awoke with the alarm at midnight for my Benicar, which I took, and was right back asleep.
Day 57, October 27, Day 23 on mino, Benicar q6h
4:05AM 100/51/59
Asleep, until about 3:45AM, when some leg spasms awoke me. I lay in bed for a short period until I realized the insomnia again with the herxing. It is as regular as the clock... take mino, two to three hours later herx, then insomnia that night. Kind of makes me want to hold funeral services.... for all of those buggers that died that day!!!
I definitely can feel the difference of a 3 mg herx, a 4.5 mg herx, and a 6 mg herx... believe it or not!!!! At the 3 mg level, I can function almost as normal. I can think and handle mental gymnastics like sorting out a dozen or more wires going to different computers or devises, or, consider the complexities of Windows operating and other systems. But at the 6 mg level, I am out-of-it. To bed, I go, and its muddle through the rest of the day. Forget mental gymnastics! If I smile, in even in a half smile, be thankful! The 4.5 mg herx is somewhere in between the two. I think I may need to consider what I need/want to accomplish for a particular day to decide how much mino I will take for that round. I think that Trevor's revised suggestion of starting with 12.5 mg of mino may need to be adjusted again. But, he most probably is very correct to say that we have to be aware of a need to adjust upwards as time goes by. I am not disputing the overall wisdom of his discovery. The more that I read about various aspects, the more I am convinced that it is equal to Louis Pasteur's finding of the bugs to begin with.
On a side note, we have just at the end of this week received DW's "D" tests results. Her 125D = 54, 25D = 34. She has been fighting borreliosis since nine months before me. I think she will be joining us with the MP. Only she can make that decision of when.
Speaking in a very general sort of way, I definitely am beginning to see some slight improvement.
George
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Borreliosis:7/14/04--125D=57,25D=61. Ben 9/1/04. Mino 10/5/04. 4/13/05--125D=58,25D=43. 8/17/05--125D=52,25D=36. April 06=125D=38,25D=29. 8/29/06--125D=37,25D=29. June 07 25D=23. Oct31'07,25D=19.
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GeorgeinRollaMO says, "I spent the day driving my pickup with trailer to the St. Louis area to pick up some farm machinery... in the rain... two hours there and two hours back. Waited until evening to take my mino, and became almost uncontrollably sleepy again in the two to three hours later timeframe. I do not think that my great urge for sleep was the amount of work of the day....
It sounds like your increase in light exposure, (yes, rainy day and all) caused an increase in fatigue. Next time you plan on going out for this length of time, you may want to increase your Benicar, (Drs permission of course) to see if this lessens the fatigue.
GeorgeinRollaMO says, "...Asleep, until about 3:45AM, when some leg spasms awoke me. I lay in bed for a short period until I realized the insomnia again with the herxing."
The spasms were most likely the hormonal adjustment again, from the increase in light, as well as a rise in 1,25-D due to herxing. Remember, both the light exposure and herxing will raise D and cause Hyper D sxs. Last edited on Wed Oct 27th, 2004 15:20 by Reenie
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