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Alzheimers Amyloid protein is an Antimicrobial Peptide
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 Posted: Wed Oct 26th, 2011 10:11

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It is called Dakins sollution, used in dentistry when working on root canal treatment
http://doreen.mkbmemorial.com/NF/dakins.pdf

Well, this dentist ciaims it is safe, u can read it in his long post i quoted above.

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 Posted: Wed Oct 26th, 2011 11:46

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Another interesting presentation along the same line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3AKA46fbRw&feature=related

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Yes i saw this movie before, but forgot about it.
It would be wonderful if special mouth washing could improve condition of patients.

But the movie says that husband had more oral spirochetes but less symptoms

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But the movie says that husband had more oral spirochetes but less symptoms

That could be caused by what they considered to be 'symptoms'.  A slow growth of arterial plaque was probably not going to be noticed as a symptom.  We can assume that the husband and wife started with different metabiomes, so the varied results is to be expected. 

Nothing is linear in the TH1 situation, and not much is in a healthy body.



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 Posted: Sat Oct 29th, 2011 23:18

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I have tried Clorox, DISGUSTING :(
But i decreased the dose to just a little and I spread it with toothpaste, also I do not breathe through mouth, only nose, it seems to irritate lungs but i am not sure.

Dr Marshall, dentist advises Baking Soda as well.
You have mentioned Baking Soda/Hydrogen Peroxide .
How to use this combination ?

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Wrotek,
What I have done is to use the baking soda for brushing and follow with dilute hydrogen peroxide as a mouth wash, similar to the clorox regimen.

I am afraid I am at some risk of becoming eccentric.:cool:
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Mvanwink5 did this approach help You with anything ? Teeth pain etc ?

Eccentrics are interesting people :)
But why teeth washing should be considered eccentric ?

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 Posted: Sun Oct 30th, 2011 04:01

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wrotek wrote: Dr Marshall, dentist advises Baking Soda as well.
You have mentioned Baking Soda/Hydrogen Peroxide .
How to use this combination ?

Wrotek, there are some recipes at this link for homemade toothpaste and mouthwash that incorporate baking soda and hydrogen peroxide.

http://jennifer.hubpages.com/hub/Make_Your_Own_and_Save_-_Toothpaste_and_Mouthwash

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Great, thanks Russ.



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I use just baking soda for brushing and use the "Sonicare" brand vibrating tooth brush, and always floss. The brush has made a big difference over the last 15-20 years. I avoid commercial abrasive pastes. I used to use peroxide mixed with the grocery brand mouth wash, mixed, but have switched to the dilute clorox, at least for the present, as a test. I really want to keep my teeth and gums healthy. So far things are going fine, but I don't take my teeth for granted. It is a whole lot of trouble when care is not consistent, from my point of view, especially given the extra MP treatment avoidance needs.

Certain details such as consistent good dental care is worth the trouble.
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There are several commercial preparations of baking soda & peroxide available here in the USA.

http://www.colgate.com/app/Colgate/US/OC/Products/Toothpastes/ColgateBakingSodaAndPeroxide.cvsp

http://www.crest.com/crest-products/whitening-tartar-protection.aspx

These are made by large multi-national firms, so they might be available near you, or certainly by mail order.



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To all,

There is a commercial mouthwash that is based on chlorine dioxide in solution.  It is called CloSYS.  I have used it a while and it has a bearable taste.  It also has a mint flavoring in the box for optional use.  Pricey though.

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Mvanwink5 a tip for You, breath through nose while cloroxing Your teeth. And dont wash mouth with water after but this is mentioned under the youtube spirochete alzheimer video.

I just don't know how long should one use it.

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Hmm could removing oral spirochetes help with systemic infection ? That is a question that interests me.

Here is a little clue

Skin problems disappeared after treatment of oral spirochetosis. The question is what skin, was it also somewhere further from the teeth ? Was it acne and just acne ? I always had an acne, even on my scalp i do have acne.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqXblUDan0k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ3W7F4haLg

My poor grandmother, beside her osteoporosis and heart problems, she also had trigeminal neuralgia and half her teeth were removed(she had nerve blocks etc). If I just knew what i know today.

Later my mother, after grandmother died, had paradontosis and she could lose many teeth but some injections helped her - prescribed by very good dental surgeon.

I do have teeth pain(4 wisdom teeth removed surgically from gums) and TMJ aswell, it was my early symptom, just after back nerve pain.

Even if immune system can get to these spirochetes on teeth, there is not reason why we should not help the immune system fighting them. Especially because teeth are uncovered and accessible.

And there is another thing, patients are sensitive to oral epinephrine in dental anesthetic, right ? :) That is reeely interesting

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I have been adjusting my view on innate immune system assistance to include the mouthwash regimen. It is simple, low tech, and not expensive. In a way, one could almost put daily dental care into the category of good first aide, and for people who have or have borderline periodontal disease, it is first aide care.

I really consider this topic essential for an MPr's expedited recovery. Thanks for opening my eyes on its importance (hat tip to Marion for her insights also). I find that I am not always the quickest off the mark and slow to see things, so I really appreciate the help here.

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Yes, I am very excited by this topic also :)

But why would spirochetes like teeth so much ?

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wrotek wrote: Yes, I am very excited by this topic also :)

But why would spirochetes like teeth so much ?

Maybe it is easier to build biofilms on teeth than other parts of the body?  Also the mouth area gives them easy access to food and nutrients.  The average kid who drinks milk, juice, and soda all day long is constantly filling his mouth with sugar to feed the bugs and vitamin D to suppress the immune system. 



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Why the mouth? Reminds me of a 6 foot diameter patch of lavender colored wild flowers that grew in just this one roadside place and flowered there every year. I always wondered why there and not elsewhere? Why my left shoulder and not my right shoulder? Or right hand versus my left hand. These bugs are just picky eaters is all I can say.
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About a year ago I started to add a small amount of my disinfectant mouthwash (about 1:10 ratio) to the salt solution I use as a sinus neti pot flush.  I also started to use mucienex.  Over a period of about a month, my sinus congestion significantly improved.  I also noted that I no longer get the occasional bloody discharge when blowing my nose.

I think the idea of eliminating bugs from the mouth and sinus is a very good idea.  This may not work for everyone and I suggest caution at first if you try this.  As I remember it took awhile to get use to it. 

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This could be potential treatment for acne, which I had for years, and i never used to brush teeth up/down (gum pockets) , only sideways . It hurts a little, but i will do it, to make mouthwash reach there.

P.s. I got used to clorox, it is not so bad after a while.

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