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Linda J
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Posted: Wed Nov 5th, 2014 13:29 |
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| First thing I did when I read the article (found it on Monday before it was posted here) was to jump on the internet and check to see if Sweden fortifies their milk with vitamin D. And of course, yes, they do.
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Prof Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2015 12:42 |
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Hard to believe, but in Medpage Today I read:"Vitamin D is everyone's favorite supplement, but it's getting no love from the authors of a recent analysis. No association was found between vitamin D and a lowered blood pressure, found a large meta-analysis, led by Miles Witham, PhD, from the University of Dundee in Scotland.
The findings received widespread media coverage, and some took the opportunity to call for an end to widespread vitamin D supplementation.
David Agus, MD, for example, was asked by Charlie Rose on CBS This Morning if we need vitamin D. "The answer is no," said Agus. "More and more people are taking it -- it's the second most taken vitamin in the country, behind multivitamins."
Agus then said that patients should challenge their doctors and ask for data if they're told they need to take more vitamin D. "We now have to reassess what is normal," he said. "Nobody should be taking it at the present time, in a normal individual."
Medpage Today is a publication for physicians and health-care workers. It really is very significant that anybody would be told to "challenge their Doctors"
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mvanwink5
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Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2015 13:01 |
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Supplements in pills... FDA is still pounding it into every form of food or beverage. 
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Markt9452
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Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2015 16:29 |
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http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2195120
Effect of Vitamin D Supplementation on Blood Pressure
A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis Incorporating Individual Patient Data
JAMA Intern Med. Published online March 16, 2015. doi:10.1001/jamainternmed.2015.0237
Conclusions and Relevance Vitamin D supplementation is ineffective as an agent for lowering BP and thus should not be used as an antihypertensive agent.
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Ron
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Posted: Fri Mar 20th, 2015 21:13 |
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Vitamin D Deficiency in Dutch School-Age Children...
http://jn.nutrition.org/content/early/2015/02/18/jn.114.208280.abstract
Here we go again..
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Posted: Sat Mar 21st, 2015 02:35 |
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But did the study evaluate whether the kids were "healthy?" If all they did in the study was measure serum Vitamin D levels and didn't make any comment on whether these kids were ill or continually more sick than their counterparts with "normal" Vitamin D levels, what good is the study? I would almost bet that there are many school-age children who live closer to the equator who have "normal" Vitamin D levels who aren't as healthy as these children. My hope is that their government doesn't pull some knee-jerk reaction and pass a bunch of laws meant to "correct a situation" which may not need correcting.
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Posted: Sat Mar 21st, 2015 05:42 |
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Important ... factors associated with vitamin D deficiency were ... playing outside.
Better not let the kids play outside.
They might end up Vitamin D deficient.
Wait What ?
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Posted: Sat Mar 28th, 2015 19:05 |
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Interesting blog post discussing the DRI as applied to vit D.
http://nutrevolve.blogspot.ca/2015/03/using-dris-vitamin-d-case-study.html
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Posted: Sun May 10th, 2015 21:57 |
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From Debs article on the subject...
http://nutrevolve.blogspot.ca/2015/03/using-dris-vitamin-d-case-study.html
This is the critical error that Heaney and Veugeler make - they measure the amount of vitamin D that would need to be taken in to get everyone in the population up to the RDA blood level - but by definition, that amount is exceedingly high for most.
This tends to be a common mistake, especially coming from a clinicians perspective. If you look at how DRI's are suggested to be used (5), we tell people to plan a healthy diet aiming for the RDA. But when looking at a population and assessing an individual's needs based on some biochemical data (e.g. 25OHD), it's suggested to use the Estimated Average Requirement (EAR) and other clinical markers to determine the possibility of inadequacy. It's critical for practitioner's to understand that we can't just assume everyone in the population needs the RDA, because by definition, it's more than needed by 97.5 percent of the population.
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Prof Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Sun May 10th, 2015 23:52 |
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Each of these practitioners proselytizing Vit-D supplementation is themselves taking large quantities of Calciferol. As time goes by, I would expect the steroid to gradually lose its effect, as do corticosteroids, and those taking it would have to increase their dose.
This is the same cycle (IMHO) which leads to Sarcies getting 120mg of prednisone, and it still not 'doing the job', just prior to them dying of pneumonia, C.difficile (etc).
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Posted: Fri Jun 12th, 2015 23:07 |
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Don't know if this has already been posted or not ...
Vitamin D, calcium supplements do not improve menopausal symptoms
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/06/150601104533.htm
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scooker48
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Posted: Fri Jun 12th, 2015 23:42 |
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Good find, Rico.
Thanks,
Sherry
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eClaire
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Posted: Sun Jun 14th, 2015 18:27 |
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Regarding to the most recently posted study about menopausal symptoms:
""Our study suggests that women should not rely on vitamin D and calcium supplements to relieve menopausal symptoms, but there are important caveats," said Erin S. LeBlanc, MD, MPH, lead author and investigator with the Kaiser Permanente Center for Health Research in Portland, Oregon. "The average age of the women at the start of our study was 64, but the average age of menopause is 51, and it's around that time that the most severe symptoms usually occur."
Of course there are caveats when you go looking for something and don't find it.
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2015 13:14 |
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Meanwhile, in Canada:
C-388 — An Act to establish a National Vitamin D Day Tabled by: — James Lunney (Conservative, Nanaimo—Alberni) Description: “Abundant scientific research in the past decade,” said Lunney, who doesn’t believe in evolution, “has underscored the vital role of vitamin D.” He called for every November 2 to be ‘National Vitamin D Day’. Status: Lunney’s bill didn’t see the light of day.
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scooker48
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2015 15:25 |
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Good news and Hooray for Canada .
Sherry
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2015 15:27 |
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Sometimes I think you can't even make this stuff up.
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And I don't know when - Kate Bush
Aplastic anemia Apr/10, PRCA Jan/09, Agranulocytosis 1991
25D = 25 1,25D = 58 Aug 18/09|25D<4.8 Mar/10|10.8 Nov/12
Sep '09 q8h Nov '09 q6h
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2015 16:57 |
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Every Day is "National Vitamin D Day" in Canada 
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2015 21:25 |
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| Sad, isn't it?! Probably in many countries too
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scooker48
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Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 20:47 |
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http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ejcn2015129a.html
Serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D and self-reported mental health status in adult Dane
Our results suggest that low serum 25(OH)D is not associated with self-reported symptoms/diagnosis of depression and anxiety.
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Trudy.Heil_NP
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Posted: Mon Aug 17th, 2015 18:53 |
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http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/298133.php
Vitamin D supplements offer limited benefit to obese teens
"For her team's most recent study, they examined the effect of vitamin D supplementation in 19 obese adolescents aged 13-18 with vitamin D deficiency, assessing what influence - if any - it had on their overall health....Dr. Kumar...says that she was surprised not to have uncovered any health benefit."
**Thanks Markt9452 =)Last edited on Mon Aug 17th, 2015 21:20 by Trudy.Heil_NP
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