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 Posted: Mon Aug 17th, 2015 19:50

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http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/298133.php

"Dr. Kumar suggests that this finding could be due to the relatively small number of children participating in the study and its short timeframe. To address these limitations, she calls for larger, placebo-controlled studies to investigate the long-term effects of vitamin D supplementation."

See how quickly they learn.

The good doctor is already looking for funding the next experiment on the children. :)

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 Posted: Tue Aug 25th, 2015 00:23

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A recent study has pointed to the ineffectiveness of vitamin d (and calcium) supplements and the corruption of medical 'science' relating to vitamin d caused by commercial interests seeking to make money from vitamin d supplementation - see http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26198274. This study was featured on a popular health radio program here in Oz - see http://www.abc.net.au/radio/programitem/peBWDZk2z3?play=true



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I see only a bibliographic description when I click on the link to

BMJ. 2015 Jul 21;351:h3170. doi: 10.1136/bmj.h3170.
Web of industry, advocacy, and academia in the management of osteoporosis.

Does anyone have full text?
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NIH Study Shows no Benefit of Omega-3 or Other Nutritional Supplements for Cognitive Decline.

https://nei.nih.gov/news/pressrelease/cognitive_decline



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Thanks to Paul Albert for retrieving this one:

Web of industry, advocacy, and academia in the management of osteoporosis

BMJ 2015

http://press.psprings.co.uk/bmj/july/osteoporosis.pdf



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 Posted: Fri Aug 28th, 2015 22:09

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Sobering: Evidence for harms also emerged, including hospital admission for gastrointestinal symptoms, kidney stones, falls, hip fracture, myocardial infarction, and stroke. Among older adults living independently, the number needed to harm for vascular events (178) is less than the number needed to treat to prevent a fracture (302).

We conclude that increased calcium and vitamin D intake should not have been recommended for older adults living independently after 2007, a view consistent with the conclusion of the 2009 Cochrane review.



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I believe this is the Cochrane review but updated:

http://www.cochrane.org/CD007470/ENDOC_vitamin-d-supplementation-for-prevention-of-mortality-in-adults

Vitamin D supplementation for prevention of mortality in adults


We also observed adverse effects to vitamin D such as renal stone formation (seen for vitamin D3 combined with calcium) and elevated blood levels of calcium (seen for both alfacalcidol and calcitriol).

However, the study also points towards decreased mortality with Vit D.

Humph,

Sherry

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Here is an example of a doctor trying to "treat the secondary marker" from a post by Ron that I just came across...

His patients are low in D2-D3, so he supplements, but it doesn't change their test results???
http://www.ehs-mcs.org/en/treatments_161.html

Generally it is based on the administration of antagonists for the H1 receptor in order to normalize hyper-histaminea (using the most up to date anti -H1 antihistaminic); antioxidants; natural plant-derived brain revasculation agents, high dose vitamins B1, B2, B6, D2-D3, Omega 3 oils and zinc.

Vitamin D deficiency: A strong vitamin D2 - D3 deficiency has been observed before treatment in many patients. The fermented papaya preparation did not correct such a deficiency. The action mechanisms of the deficiency still remain unknown, since a lack of sun exposure is not an issue here.

No vitamin deficiency other than vitamin D2 - D3 was observed.

:X:shock::X:shock::X

Looks like the standard treatment (above) is about as immune suppressive as you can get without standing in front of a microwave oven.



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This is not to promote Denosumab in any way, but to show the following:

daily calcium and vitamin D alone was associated with a progressive and significant loss of BMD

BMD = Bone Mineral Density

http://acrabstracts.org/abstract/denosumab-restores-cortical-bone-loss-at-the-distal-radius-associated-with-aging-and-reduces-wrist-fracture-risk-analyses-from-the-cross-over-group-in-the-extension-of-the-denosumab-pivotal-fracture/

http://www.newswise.com/articles/denusomab-reverses-bone-loss-and-lowers-wrist-fracture-rates-in-women-with-osteoporosis



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Hey everybody,It is an established maxim within the prefessions of chiropractice and osteopathy etc that bone strength can only be achieved by weight-bearing activities-not necessarily weight lifting but gardening or housework involving a lot of lifting etc



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A decade ago it was shown that the estrogen receptor had the primary role in building bone matrix strength (the stuff in the center of bones which gives the strength).
 

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Do we have a peer reviewed paper on that?  Cynthia



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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3533305/

I confess to not reading more than the abstract, but this might point us in the right direction.



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Good find, Sherry, but I actually attended a presentation by a Japanese researcher, probably in 2012 or so, and he had published a paper in Science or Nature (etc) on the topic. I haven't been able to find it, even though I recall he showed a 'glossy' page as one of his slides.

Oh, wait, maybe it is cited in the paper you found... Yes, probably in citation 8... In "Cell" not "Nature". Oh well, my memory sometimes lets me down :) :)

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Dr. Marshall,

You are an impeccable bibliographer.:D

With highest respect,

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National Standard of Canada
Canadian General Standards Board
Organic production systems

CAN/CGSB-32.311-2015

Permitted substances lists

Cholecalciferol (vitamin D3)
May be used outdoors and inside greenhouses for rodent control when methods described in 5.6.1 of CAN/CGSB-32.310 have failed.

Prohibited inside on-farm food processing and food storage facilities.



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http://www.healio.com/internal-medicine/nephrology/news/online/%7Bc8d07bf8-57c8-4158-8772-06e3a337d636%7D/vitamin-d-supplementation-did-not-treat-anemia-in-patients-on-dialysis

Vitamin D supplementation did not treat anemia in patients on dialysis


Miskulin DC, et al. J Am Soc Nephrol. 2015;doi:10.1681/ASN.2015040468

Results from a clinical trial indicate that nutritional vitamin D supplements do not help in treating anemia in patients on hemodialysis, according to data published in the Journal of the American Society of Nephrology.



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More bad news for Vitamin D supplementation and asthma- Full Article: http://journals.lww.com/md-journal/Fulltext/2015/12150/Can_Vitamin_D_Supplementation_in_Addition_to.22.aspx

Abstract: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26683927

"The results do not support a role for vitamin D in the management of asthma."
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Trudy:  Good find.:)

Vitamin D supplementation in addition to asthma controllers cannot decrease asthma exacerbation and FeNO, nor improve lung function and asthma symptoms, although it can be safely applied to increase serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels.



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"safely" :X:shock::X

We all know better....

Merry Christmas,
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