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 Posted: Wed Oct 16th, 2013 06:02

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Just don't have salmon, eggs, and caviar for lunch, Sean! ;) :P

-Glad somebody here has a semblance of a social life!! :D



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 Posted: Wed Oct 16th, 2013 06:20

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Oh yes...of course!! We will be strictly eating only oysters marinated in cod liver oil....maybe with a side of bacon.
I got it man...I got this stuff



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 Posted: Wed Oct 16th, 2013 06:38

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-Sounds yummy! (I mean the nurse, not the food...)

Have fun! :cool:



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 Posted: Wed Oct 16th, 2013 17:17

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I make my own Almond Milk. Soak 1 cup raw unsalted almonds in 2-3 cups water overnight. Drain and rinse. Put the almonds in your blender with 3 cups distilled water, puree as fine as you can. Drain through cheese cloth. Mix with more distilled water to taste. You can add sweetener if you'd like.

I also dry the left over almond pulp and grind it into a flour and make muffins or crackers or something with it.

Yummy

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 Posted: Mon Oct 28th, 2013 20:10

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Hi Lydia, I see where you've asked the manufacturers to stop putting vitamin D in their almond milk. This is just quick note to let you know that I make my own almond milk and it is very easy.

Just soak 1 cup of almonds overnight in 2 - 3 cups distilled water. Drain and than blend the almonds with fresh distilled water until it's as smooth as you can get it.

Than strain it through some cheesecloth. One cup of almonds will make about a quart or so. I dry the pulp and grind it up like flour and make crackers out of it.

The milk is really good, you can add some stevia to sweeten it a bit, or maybe some vanilla for more flavoring.

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 Posted: Wed Oct 30th, 2013 11:07

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At my annual physical last week, my doctor "nailed" me about my low Vit. D level, which has been consistently at 4 for the last few years.

He has been recommending 1000 mg supplementation daily since August 2006. At that time, I took it for 8 months (pre-MP), resulting in my auto-immune health issues escalating and my weight dropping to less that 90 lbs.

It was his last opportunity to push Vitamin D at me, since he is retiring soon. So, I said "You and I know the truth about Vitamin D--that it's a steroid and there are controversial studies that question it's value in fighting osteoporosis. You can try to sell me this drug, but I'm not buying it. My great-grandmother lived to be nearly 110 (she passed 1 day before her 110th birthday in 1987). She was very healthy, never took Vitamin D supplements and lived in her own home until she was 105."

That being said, I am wondering, as "The People's Chemist" mentions above, if I should eat more foods naturally containing Vitamin D, like eggs, salmon and avocados, to bring my level up closer to 20. I am quite photo-sensitive, both in eyes and skin, and wonder if maybe a little higher D level might ease that a bit. Does anyone have advice on this?

Many thanks and well wishes, Jasmine



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 Posted: Wed Oct 30th, 2013 12:15

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getting a bit off topic here, towards the Lifestyles forum ;)
so I moved my response to your progress thread.



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 Posted: Thu Oct 31st, 2013 19:09

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Another strike against Vitamin D industry by research results.

Vitamin D does not increase calcium absorption in young women.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jbmr.2121/abstract

Last edited on Thu Oct 31st, 2013 19:11 by DNStog



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 Posted: Thu Oct 31st, 2013 19:22

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We posted at the same time, Donna! Here is the link to the calcium absorption topic I started:

http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum39/15684.html

..trevor..

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 Posted: Thu Oct 31st, 2013 20:16

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Trevor...how about this 2012 study results from the same scientist disproving vitamin D value in absorption of calcium in older women?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22855333

:-). Donna



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 Posted: Thu Dec 5th, 2013 17:25

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French study confirms that low 25D is a marker of ill health and that except for a slight incresed survival effect in the elderly, supplementation is ineffectual in a wide variety of diseases.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25234313

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/abstract

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Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
Prof Philippe Autier MD a b , Prof Mathieu Boniol PhD a b, Cécile Pizot MSc a, Prof Patrick Mullie PhD a c
Summary
Low serum concentrations of 25-hydroxyvitamin D (25[OH]D) have been associated with many non-skeletal disorders. However, whether low 25(OH)D is the cause or result of ill health is not known. We did a systematic search of prospective and intervention studies that assessed the effect of 25(OH)D concentrations on non-skeletal health outcomes in individuals aged 18 years or older. We identified 290 prospective cohort studies (279 on disease occurrence or mortality, and 11 on cancer characteristics or survival), and 172 randomised trials of major health outcomes and of physiological parameters related to disease risk or inflammatory status. Investigators of most prospective studies reported moderate to strong inverse associations between 25(OH)D concentrations and cardiovascular diseases, serum lipid concentrations, inflammation, glucose metabolism disorders, weight gain, infectious diseases, multiple sclerosis, mood disorders, declining cognitive function, impaired physical functioning, and all-cause mortality. High 25(OH)D concentrations were not associated with a lower risk of cancer, except colorectal cancer. Results from intervention studies did not show an effect of vitamin D supplementation on disease occurrence, including colorectal cancer. In 34 intervention studies including 2805 individuals with mean 25(OH)D concentration lower than 50 nmol/L at baseline supplementation with 50 μg per day or more did not show better results. Supplementation in elderly people (mainly women) with 20 μg vitamin D per day seemed to slightly reduce all-cause mortality. The discrepancy between observational and intervention studies suggests that low 25(OH)D is a marker of ill health. Inflammatory processes involved in disease occurrence and clinical course would reduce 25(OH)D, which would explain why low vitamin D status is reported in a wide range of disorders. In elderly people, restoration of vitamin D deficits due to ageing and lifestyle changes induced by ill health could explain why low-dose supplementation leads to slight gains in survival.



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Yes, this same article was mentioned in the Swedish public radio science program today, and they even put up a referens to the study on the radio webpage, so I am very happy and grateful today that this is finally taken into consideration. :)



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Vitamin D Supplements Won't Help Prevent Disease: Review
Low levels of 'sunshine vitamin' could be a sign of illness, rather than a cause, studies suggest

http://consumer.healthday.com/senior-citizen-information-31/misc-aging-news-10/vitamin-d-may-not-help-prevent-disease-682815.html

The current review, published online Dec. 6 in The Lancet Diabetes & Endocrinology:

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/abstract

This just really gives me some hope that TPTB are coming around....:cool:

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Being discussed here ...

http://marshallprotocol.com/forum39/15762.html



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I can't find access to the actual study, but this is a blurb about it?

Vitamin D Supplements Don't Help Your Health: Review

http://www.philly.com/philly/health/HealthDay684171_20140124_Vitamin_D_Supplements_Don_t_Help_Your_Health__Review.html

The study is in the Lancet Endocrine journal.

EDIT: Here it is:
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70212-2/fulltext



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From the review Gilly posted a link to:
Previous research has shown that vitamin D deficiency is associated with poor health and early death. But recent evidence suggests that low levels of vitamin D are a result, not a cause, of poor health, according to a journal news release.
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/health/HealthDay684171_20140124_Vitamin_D_Supplements_Don_t_Help_Your_Health__Review.html#j5lelXodwWFPTX8g.99Previous research has shown that viatmin D deficiency is associated with poor health and early death. But recent evidence suggests that low levels of vitamin D are a result, not a cause, of poor health, according to a journel news release.
Previous research has shown that vitamin D deficiency is associated with poor health and early death. But recent evidence suggests that low levels of vitamin D are a result, not a cause, of poor health, according to a journal news release.
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/health/HealthDay684171_20140124_Vitamin_D_Supplements_Don_t_Help_Your_Health__Review.html#jVdDpH0xxlr2ckyC.99Previous research has shown that vitamin D deficiency is associated with poor health and early death. But recent evidence suggests that low levels of vitamin D are a result, not a cause, of poor health, according to a journal news release.
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/health/HealthDay684171_20140124_Vitamin_D_Supplements_Don_t_Help_Your_Health__Review.html#jVdDpH0xxlr2ckyC.99Previous research has shown that vitamin D deficiency is associated with poor health and early death. But recent evidence suggests that low levels of vitamin D are a result, not a cause, of poor health, according to a journal news release.
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/health/HealthDay684171_20140124_Vitamin_D_Supplements_Don_t_Help_Your_Health__Review.html#j5lelXodwWFPTX8g.99



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 Posted: Fri Jan 24th, 2014 23:23

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:D:D:D Maybe, just maybe the message is starting to get through!!!



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New research suggests that vitamin D deficiency is associated with the development of chronic widespread pain

http://arma.uk.net/vitamin-d-deficiency-and-chronic-pain/



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'Just another marker':

http://circgenetics.ahajournals.org/content/early/2014/07/27/CIRCGENETICS.113.000416.abstract



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 Posted: Mon Jul 28th, 2014 14:39

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Good find, Nick.

"...and question a role for vitamin D supplementation in the prevention of cardiovascular disease. "



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