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Data needed for FDA (DEXA, calcium use, BP improvements)
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 Posted: Sun Jul 19th, 2015 01:27

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Sallie, the skeleton regenerates approximately every decade. It takes quite a while for the inflammatory damage done pre-MP to disappear...

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 Posted: Sun Jul 19th, 2015 04:42

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I live in hope. after all, Jigsaw is ten years older than I am, maybe more
so if I am offered another DEXA 5 years later, there may be enough improvement to show something.
Meanwhile a little good Aussie cheese, or a tub of Greek yoghurt made by owner of corner store can't hurt, I guess
and maybe I need to take more exercise since I can :D



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 Posted: Wed Nov 16th, 2016 21:03

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Summary - still in OSTEOPENIA category,

but increased density for both femurs and spine

year   where              bmd     t-score         z-score
                                  (young adult)   (age-matched)
2007 L1-L4             1.058      87% -1.3           87% -1.3
2009 L1-L4             1.153      94% -0.5           96% -0.4
2014 L1-L4             1.178      97% -0.4           99% -0.1
2016 L1-L4             1.255           0.3                0.7

2007 left femur neck   0.870      81% -1.5           88% -0.9
2009 left femur neck   0.928      87% -1.1           98% -0.3
2014 left femur neck   0.976      97% -0.4          103% -0.2
2016 left femur neck   1.033      97% -0.3          103%  0.8

2007 right femur neck  0.777      73% -2.3           79% -1.6
2009 right femur neck  0.862      81% -1.6           98% -0.8
2014 right femur neck  0.794          -2.1               -1.2
2016 right femur neck  0.821          -1.9               -0.8

(BMD = bone mass density in gm/cm3)

2016        % change from most recent
Spine                  6.4%
Left femur neck        5.8%
right femur neck       3.4%

Have been more reliably taking ca/mg supplements in the last year.  My trainer has been working on me putting more weight on the right side when lifting.  I'd been relying on the left side for strength without really noticing it.



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 Posted: Thu Nov 17th, 2016 09:28

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:)

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Good going Chris!

Strength training does seem to improve density.
The body builds bone in response to the load placed on it.

But even walking has been noted to help through some mechanism related to "slow twitch muscles". I'm now able to handle walking the hills around my house and that seems to be good for me on so many levels. :)



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 Posted: Fri Dec 16th, 2016 17:58

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Year Where BMD T-score Z-score Change vs Previous
2001 L1-L4 1.237 baseline baseline
2005 Started MP
2004 L1-L4 1.082 -12.5 -4.6 -12.5
2007 L1-L4 1.069 -13.6 -2.2 -1.2
2011 L1-L4 1.034 -16.4 -1.6 -3.3
2016 L1-L4 1.006 -1.5 0.1 -2.7

2001 left femur neck baseline 0.889 -1.1 -0.1
2005 Started MP
2004 left femur neck 0.83 -1.5 -0.4 -6.6
2007 left femur neck 0.78 -1.9 -0.5 -6
2011 left femur neck 0.749 -2.1 -0.6 -4
2016 left femur neck 0.737 -2.2 -0.7 -1.6
2001 right femur neck baseline 0.959 -0.6 0.4
2004 right femur neck 0.865 -1.2 0.1
2005 Started MP
2007 right femur neck 0.815 -1.6 -0.3
2011 right femur neck 0.783 -1.8 -0.4
2016 right femur neck 0.806 -1.7 -0.2
2001 total mean femmur 0.912 baseline baseline
2004 total mean femmur 0.821 -1.5 -0.7
2005 Started MP
2007 total mean femmur 0.798 -1.7 -0.7
2011 total mean femmur 0.758 -2.0 -0.8
2016 total mean femmur 0.771 -1.9 -0.5

I am unable to make these columns line up; please forgive.
I am not taking any calcium supplements but eat 2 oz of cheeze (approx.) per day.
If someone can tell me what this means, I am grateful.

Thank you. Sherry

Last edited on Fri Dec 16th, 2016 22:50 by scooker48



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Summary - still in OSTEOPENIA category,

the weak side (right) femur showing improvement, l femur and spine are reasonably dense.

year where bmd t-score z-score
(young adult) (age-matched)
2007 L1-L4 1.058 -1.3 -1.3
2009 L1-L4 1.153 -0.5 -0.4
2014 L1-L4 1.178 -0.4 -0.1
2016 L1-L4 1.255 0.3 0.7
2018 L1-L4 1.223 0.0 0.5

2007 left femur neck 0.870 -1.5 -0.9
2009 left femur neck 0.928 -1.1 -0.3
2014 left femur neck 0.976 -0.4 -0.2
2016 left femur neck 1.033 -0.3 0.8
2018 left femur neck 1.071 0.0 1.2

2007 right femur neck 0.777 -2.3 -1.6
2009 right femur neck 0.862 -1.6 -0.8
2014 right femur neck 0.794 -2.1 -1.2
2016 right femur neck 0.821 -1.9 -0.8
2018 right femur neck 0.837 -1.8 -0.6

(BMD = bone mass density in gm/cm3)

2018 % change from most recent
Spine -2.5%
Left femur neck 3.7%
right femur neck 7.7%

Haven't been lifting much at all for the last year due to hip/lower spine troubles.

Last edited on Fri Sep 7th, 2018 21:31 by Chris



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Thanks for the data Chris. :)
Is that last item supposed to be in 2018?

Also, when did you start lifting weights? I understand that load bearing exercises, even walking can greatly improve bone density.



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Yes, it was 2018, and you caught that error in time for me to fix it.  Thanks.

I start weight training at least 5 years ago, maybe more.   I've had to pretty much stop or scale way back for the last 6 months.  I pulled something in the hip/spine area or maybe several somethings as the pain shifted at least once.
I'm starting again, as flexibility has returned.



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