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 Posted: Tue Mar 25th, 2008 22:13

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lab coat or scrubs?
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 Posted: Sun May 25th, 2008 23:17

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Whatever happened to this idea?



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 Posted: Mon May 26th, 2008 03:11

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Madwolf,
I got tired of talking with idiots like these. See the thread at URL
http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum39/11975.html

They are apparently stuck in a time warp. We will have to wait for them to fade away, I suspect. Meantime we should focus on outflanking them. See:
http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum39/12139.html
 

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 Posted: Thu May 29th, 2008 04:10

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'Let the little children come unto me'.

Somehow I get the feeling a line in the sand just got crossed somewhere.

http://www.nutraingredients.com/news/ng.asp?n=85538&c=TSqlTaJaZt5O021RRbJYVg%3D%3D



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 Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 08:32

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No, I was wrong, it really can go from the sublime to the ridiculous:

But they found sex, season, time spent outdoors, sunscreen use, sun sensitivity, or skin pigmentation did not vary the prevalence of deficiency. Only breast-feeding without supplementation was strongly associated with vitamin D deficiency where there was more than a "10-fold increase in risk relative to infants who were exclusively bottle-fed."

Nonetheless, these findings endorse recommendations for health care providers and parents to ensure that breastfed infants receive daily vitamin D supplementation for the duration of breastfeeding."

http://www.nutraingredients.com/news/ng.asp?n=85661&c=TSqlTaJaZt6Fk25MZGXs0g%3D%3D



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 Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 09:35

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It seems as though this continuing mistake may well be seen (eventually) as marking the end of the era of purely evidence-based-medicine, and the beginning of the transition to "a science of safety"
"New scientific discoveries are generating what might be termed an emerging "science of safety."  This new science combines an understanding of disease and its origins at the molecular level with new methods of detecting molecular "signals" of both effectiveness and of adverse effects."
        FDA Commissioner von Eschenbach
        March 23, 2007, testimony to Congress...
We have some interesting times ahead of us, I think :)

..Trevor..

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 Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 18:38

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Dr Marshall your foundation should contact the Daily Show with Jon Stewart or the Colbert Report with Stephen Colbert. An interview on either of these shows would give you a wide audience to speak to and it would make people aware of the ignorance in the medical community in light of your discoveries on this subject. Both of these shows love to point out how uninformed the "Experts" are in our society.

Thank you for your diligent work on Th1 illness :D

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 Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 19:10

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The problem is that TV shows try to avoid publicizing what they characterize as "quackery." I think we could do it, as long as we keep the focus on the molecular biology, and the huge gulf which is opening between clinicians educated without a thorough understanding of the genome, and the molecular biologists who are now driving medical discovery.

Maybe our presentation at "Understanding Aging" will change things..
http://marshallprotocol.com/forum39/12139.html

This presentation underlines how the new science totally transcends the clinical concepts of the past. We are not talking about discovering a cure for a single disease, we are looking at a metagenomic microbiota which affects every stage of human existence, from conception until death.
 

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 Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 19:47

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In light of all the research coming out on biofilms, as well as on "Vitamin D", I am very optimistic that change in how the medical community treats inflammatory diseases is coming soon. I really believe your talk will be well received at the upcoming "Understanding Aging" conference.

Another suggestion for getting the word out the public is talk radio. I can think of 2 talk show hosts who have very open views on giving airtime to "unconventional" ideas. One radio host is Thom Hartmann, he's heard nationally on Air America Radio, but he owns his own talk show so he can choose his own topics to talk about. If you google him you will find he has an interest in health issues, specifically ADHD. The other person is a local radio host, Charles Goyette, here in Phoenix, AZ. His show covers mainly politics, but he also does interviews on a very wide range of other topics. He loves to point out that "conventional wisdom" doesn't always stand up to the facts. A google search for Charles will give you radio station contact info as well.

I have a lot of respect for both of these radio talk show hosts. They both are willing to speak the truth to power; they are both very progressive.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 16:06

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It's going to be a long tough road to get acceptance for Trevor's work on hormone D;the authors that are quoted at the top of the thread are absolutely right that there isn't much to be made monetarily from D,there is unfortunately a whole hell of a lot to be lost.It will be extremely hard to get such a controversial topic onto a good quality national program,IMO.



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 Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 18:46

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Referrals are the best form of advertisement.  As the MP reaches “critical mass” the masses will demand to be treated and the bureaucrats won’t have anything to say about it.  There are 90 million chronically ill people in the USA that medicine is unable to cure.  That is a huge inertia that will overcome even the Vitamin D dinosaur.

Remember in the movie Gandhi when they were marching to the sea for salt.  It was early in the morning and Gandhi was giving an interview to a reporter when he looked out the window and saw the people starting to leave with out him.  He said “There go my people, I must go as I am their leader”. :)

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 Posted: Fri Jun 6th, 2008 00:27

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I've been thinking about the radio talk show thing myself...so I just took the liberty of e-mailing Glen Beck and daring him to have Dr. Marshall on. He's a very outside-the-box, swim-upstream, anti-establishment sort who has a daily radio show AND TV show (CNN).

Last week he interviewed amazing scientist/inventor Ray Kurzweil, who predicts that in 20 years we'll be living forever because tiny cell-sized "robots" will be dispatched in our bodies to fix what ails us.  I say, not by the hair of the chinny-chin-chins of the AMA, FDA, FTC, media and medical mafia.  How could they live the Lifestyle of the Rich and Famous without us as their pathetic pawns?   Do you really think they'll sit idly by while we escape their clutches by becoming well?

(I don't sound bitter, do I?)  Anyway, try to stay near the phone, Dr. M!



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I am a doctor who believes in this protocol. I have however found that most of my clearly th1 patients are not at all interested in a potentialy curative treatment because of the rigors that are necessary in this protocol. Clearly both provider and patient have to be on the same page for this to work.  I also as a doctor believe that this protocol is becoming slowly more acceptable with every new patient that enrolls.



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I think that folk need to understand they are all carrying this intraphagocytic metagenomic microbiota, and it is almost certainly going to be the thing which cuts their life short, with cardio-vascular disease, Parkinsons, MS, kidney failure, Dementia, or the host of other Th1 conditions (the 'Diseases of the Aging').

Once they begin to understand the human condition, they will decide to either live life to the full, as most kids do, or plan for longevity. The MP was initiated to cure chronic disease, but it will achieve its most spectacular success in advancing the overall health of the population. It will take another few generations, maybe another 40 years, but the discoveries stemming from the cracking of the genome will change the way people think about illness. Our science will (hopefully) become a cornerstone of that scientific progress.

We now have enough data to start discussions with the gerontologists, so Meg,  Belinda, Liz, Amy, Paul, and I will all be at the UCLA "Understanding Aging" conference on the 27th of this month, presenting, mixing, discussing, and figuring out where our science will fit into the overall history of mankind.

It's pretty exciting, actually...
 

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I believe that the future of the MP will lie in not waiting until the bacteria load reaches a point requiring 4-5 years of significant suffering for the cure to be effected.  My wife, Carol with RA, still has periods of level 8 pain for weeks, and she started the MP in August of 2004.  She has been on permanent disability during this period.  (She may be a tough case for the MP since she was on high D supplements for 2 years prior to the MP.)  Depression is also a constant issue, even now.

She is very tough and dedicated to the MP.  I estimate that she is in the 5% of people who could survive to this point in her treatment.  The vast majority of people with advanced chronic diseases will simply not be able to survive the cure, IMHO.:?  (Or perhaps her advanced RA is at the top end of the scale for length and severity for cure.)

Net of all this is that early intervention is key:).

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 Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 09:22

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Phil.

I have to agree with you... maybe its because our common employer's thought processes stick with you.   It just doesn't make sense to wait until the problems are severe, have spread, and are obviously impacting performance before you do something.  To keep a business running you need to detect and fix those kinds problems early, or better yet, prevent them from occuring.  

To me it makes sense that a period on the MP will be standard for every child at set intervals the way vaccinations are now.   Once we get uninfected parents giving birth to uninfected children, who are then "cleaned up" every 5 years we will see the true power of this.   With Trevor's technology, it will probably be 4-5 generations before we see a significant number of children born who are not significantly infected. 

Of course I can't get my own four adult children to try it, even though they show a variety of symptoms.    They just don't want to believe they are sick, or don't want to lose a minute of living in the present.   I think they understand on an intellectual level what I have done, and even that they are infected, and they see the results in me, but to them it's #200 on their to do list.

So the whole mindset of everyone needs to change to the point they believe it is sensible and even urgent to endure some current pain to cure a disease that isn't bothering them.   In the past, that took mandatory vaccination laws, and vaccination was an easily tracked event that could be easily supervised by a doctor.      

This isn't going to happen quickly.

 

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Gary,
Healthy folk feel no significant pain as they kill their pathogens. But I am sure that there will be some 'pain' as mankind again adjusts to the concept that lots of sunlight may not necessarily be good for your health.

The conference on Aging at UCLA is the way we have chosen to start talking about prevention. We hope this group will be relatively open-minded to the science. Only time will tell.

By the time your kids are 40 they will start thinking about life-extension, and the IP will most probably hurt them a bit at that point. Sigh....
 

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 Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 15:36

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Trevor,

True, my children may look into it earlier than I did, but their children will all be born infected by then (one already is, and is infected - luckily not too bad).

Even if 10% of the population were disease free by the time they have children, you might only get 1% of the children born without being infected by a parent. 

It might take 70% disease free parents to produce 50% disease free babies. 

Add to that the fact you can't tell a teenager anything, especially if it involves a prerequisite to sexual activity, and it may be a long process to get to a society substantially disease free for their entire lives.

That's why I believe the MP has to be implemented as a regimen in a similar way that vaccinations are now, if the full potential of the protocol is achieved.  Having the high compliance rates which vaccinations have, requires that it is accepted by all as "the way things are" for children.

What kind of achievements are possible for someone who was never significantly infected for their entire life?  What is possible for a society of these people?

Nice to muse about the distant future, but there are more pressing issues in the right now....  

Blessings to all

Gary

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 Posted: Tue Jun 10th, 2008 10:43

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I have been "challenged" by my wife, Carol with RA, to get on the MP.  My D metabolites have tested at roughly 52/22 over the past few years.  As Trevor commented to me, there is something going on.  I believe that, and would like to get on the MP to nip whatever it is in the bud.  I would also love to be one of the first to use the MP prophylactically, and reap the benefits of graceful aging. 

So, my dilemma is finding a doctor who will prescribe the MP meds to a person showing no obvious symptoms of Th1 disease.  I did a 1 week "mini" therapeutic probe 2 years ago (pulsed mino) and saw nothing.  Carol doesn't want me to approach her doctor for various reasons.  Any suggestions?

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Trevor says here...

'Healthy folk feel no significant pain as they kill their pathogens'

Now .....after 2 years on the MP with remarkable results, I think about what this means in relationship to health.

A while back I wrote about contracting a pathogen that would normally cause  respiratory inflammation like the flu.....but never feeling it or even knowing you were fighting it.

This has been my experience on the MP as well as a number of my friends on the protocol as well.....we all stopped getting lung infections after we started the MP....and we all used to get sick frequently with respiratory illness.

So I am assuming that the pathogens that used to easily get in and stay now cannot survive due to a VDR that is 'burning brighter' so to speak.



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