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Prof Trevor Marshall
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 Posted: Fri Feb 4th, 2011 08:28

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During our regular web conference this weekend I will discuss topics in our new paper - immunopathology, kidney 'failure', olmesartan dosing, etc.

I will finish answering the question on the difference between mouse and human immune systems, and answer new questions submitted during the conference.

Remember that the conference will start on Sat Feb 5th at 2pm PST, there is a countdown timer at the website. The text window for asking and answering questions will become available 15 minutes before the hour.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 5th, 2011 07:28

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I need a link to the conference website. I did a search here and on the MPKB but to no avail. Thank you.



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 Posted: Sat Feb 5th, 2011 08:13

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Here it is.

http://marshallprotocol.com/conferences/



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 Posted: Sat Feb 5th, 2011 10:58

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Congratulations to all on your new publication on immunstimulation! I enjoyed reading it and look forward to the discussion today! Thank you! :D

Here is a repost of Dr. Marshall's e-mail RE: this week's Web Conference Saturday 5th February

This week a Nature.com Journal, "Cellular and Molecular Immunology," published our latest paper "Immunostimulation in the era of the Metagenome." This is a detailed paper, containing both theoretical material and clinical case summaries:

http://www.nature.com/cmi/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs/cmi201077a.html


A free preprint is online at:

http://autoimmunityresearch.org/preprints/Proal2010CellularMolecularImmunologyPreprint.pdf

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 Posted: Sat Feb 5th, 2011 12:18

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Dr. Marshall,

I'm unable to find any icon for asking you a question during your tele-conference that starts in about 45 minutes. This is my question:

My friend, Bob, is taking olmesartan to lower his blood pressure but he says that, even at just 5 mg a day, it makes his brain so foggy that he's going to stop taking any at all. He is an accountant so attention to detail is very important.

He's not on the MP - he's just taking the olmesartan for his BP - but I think his reaction to the olmesartan shows that he has a Th1 disease.

What can Bob do?

Thank you!

NWLinda  (now in modified Phase II of the MP)
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 Posted: Sun Feb 6th, 2011 10:27

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During the web conference it was mentioned that there have recently been papers published indicating that some of the psychiatric meds are immunosuppressive.  Are there links available for these studies?

Thanks.

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 Posted: Sun Feb 6th, 2011 11:11

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I believe that it was mentioned during the web conference and at other places on the MP site that we now know that humans are 10% human cells and 90% microbiota.  This raises several questions in my mind.

1.  Does this mean that we have to kill the other 90% in order to fully recover?

2.  If not how much of the 90% has to go?

3.  If not, how does the immune system decide which portion of the 90% gets killed and which portion stays? 

Please get this question to dr. marshall and have him answer this during the next conference.

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 Posted: Sun Feb 6th, 2011 11:16

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Russ, you might look at this post, and indeed that whole discussion thread :)

http://www.marshallprotocol.com/view_topic.php?id=13707&forum_id=11&jump_to=205988#p205988

Let me know if that doesn't help :)
 
 

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 Posted: Sun Feb 6th, 2011 11:20

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Carricol,
Controversial indeed, as some people think there are 'good microbes'. In any case, we don't want to kill 100% as it could be argued that mitochondria make up a portion of that 100%. I would say that we want to allow the immune system to clear up everything it has evolved to kill.

That is yet another reason to move to Olmesartan-only in later stages of the MP, there seems no point in confusing the immune system with antibiotics once you have gotten beyond stage 5, IMO.

In early stages I suspect it is best to kill everything you can, as at least some of the microbiota have learned to hide from the immune system :)
 

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 Posted: Sun Feb 6th, 2011 17:50

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I can't get the video to download on my mac or my husband's pc. Any tips?



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 Posted: Sun Feb 6th, 2011 18:00

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The video is Adobe Flash, you need to have updated Flash within the last few months as a number of virus vulnerabilities were fixed. But if your browser has updated Flash, and your internet download speed is 200Kbps or more (most are, even 3G mobile) you should be able to see it fine, We have a number of different computers and laptops here which have all been OK. All are using the Firefox browser, though...

What browsers are you using? What do you see? An arrow on a black background?
 

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 Posted: Sun Feb 6th, 2011 18:23

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I updated flash just to make sure. It is starting to play but very, very, very, very slowly. I might hear 3 or 4 words, then it stops. It might be my Hughes Net, but I can watch other videos without so much delay.


....it is stopped altogether. I will try to watch it at work tomorrow. thanks.

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 Posted: Tue Feb 8th, 2011 04:42

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Out of curiosity, do you have a router that does stateful packet inspection (SPI)? If so the problem might be the router. It sounds kind of like what's discribed here...

http://www.actionscript.org/forums/showthread.php3?t=131889



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I have a new router. I can watch Y tube with just a few jerks and starts, and news videos, but I can't watch this conference video. I am on Hughes Net, but you would think that was the problem, it would happen with all videos but it doesn't. I will try to connect at work today and watch it. It takes a long time even before I see the arrow on the screen, then one or two words, then stops. I have been using google chrome on my mac. Thanks.

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 Posted: Tue Feb 8th, 2011 05:57

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Check your internet speed at http://www.speedtest.net. Report back what it finds. Of course do this check from your home location :)

Should be three numbers:
Ping
Download
Upload

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880ms


mp3 (5MB) 41 sec
video clip (35MB) 5 min
movie (800) 108 min

download .99 mb/sec
upload .22 mb/sec

Hughes net 1.7 stars out of 5


Hughes net is all I can get out here in the boonies.

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I just tried the video again and it is working well. It may have been the weather before. Thanks for your help.



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 Posted: Tue Feb 8th, 2011 07:01

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Excellent. Well now you have a baseline reading on your bandwidth. Next time you have trouble run the speedtest again and see how it compares to this reading that is working. If it is a lot lower then you can suspect it is a bandwidth issue at home.

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I guess I spoke too soon because it stopped and froze. Don't worry about me. I am used to crappy internet connection. LOL. The sky is blue and beautiful, so who knows why it stopped.

What are the target numbers I should have?



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 Posted: Tue Feb 8th, 2011 07:21

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1 Megabit down is pushing it; but the ping might be what is killing you. usual ping for broadband is 30-100ms. Your ping is over 8 times that.

Check your PM.



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