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Prof Trevor Marshall
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 Posted: Mon Sep 19th, 2016 09:15


You should not pay any credence to any science based on Genes until the field starts to get its act together. This entire branch of Science has faded into insignificance since the discovery of the importance of Epignetics, a field too complicated for most mere mortals to attempt.

The promise of an understanding based on genes was that it was easy to apply statistical analyses to databases, and it was hoped that useful breakthroughs would result from the bean-counters 'pumping the numbers'. All that has resulted is vague associations and very little solid science. At this point in time, even the BRCA mutations are being deprecated as misleading.

All attempts to "dumb-down" understanding of how the body works have failed based on our expanding understanding of biological complexity. Take a look at some of my recent YouTube presentations for more background.


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 Posted: Tue Jul 25th, 2017 01:05


Vitamin D in Disarray:

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 Posted: Tue Jul 25th, 2017 01:07


Have you read that book, Joyful? Looks very interesting!

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 Posted: Tue Jul 25th, 2017 10:48


Did we miss Dr. Davies back in 2010? Here are some interesting quotes from this 1924 born cardiologist. I found them on this blog.

"The idea that widespread vitamin D deficiency exists in the world has never had any credibility, and the idea that vigorous supplementation is necessary therefore has to be false."

Nowadays it is virtually impossible to buy milk in the US that has not been laced (‘fortified’) with vitamin D. The amounts added, and the content, have been subject to dubious control, and a number of fatalities have occurred due to Vitamin D poisoning from milk."

The mis-labeling of this compound as a vitamin is regrettable, as it gave a potential toxin an aura of undeserved innocence. Vitamin D is not a vitamin, but a steroid, which is, in its most active form, a powerful hormone with receptors widely distributed in the tissues of the body. As with other steroids, excessive consumption has risks."

I wonder if, in the meantime, Dr. Davies has found evidence to back up (or disprove!) the following statement.

Sporadic deficiency does exist and must be treated, but this applies to identifiable groups such as older people in institutions."

Certainly an interesting MD and outspoken cadiologist.

"He believes that medicine took a wrong turning when it elected to devote the bulk of its resources to studying cholesterol and to largely inconclusive clinical trials based on flawed statistical manipulation."

Sallie Q
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 Posted: Wed Jul 26th, 2017 04:13


 ~4 pro-v.D
1 strongly anti-v.D
a couple inconsistent, point to anti supplementation research, but still take pharma D :?

The tide seems to be turning, but the penny has not dropped
they still think low D25 is a deficiency, not a marker for ill-health/VDR dysfunction

Last edited on Wed Jul 26th, 2017 04:14 by Sallie Q

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 Posted: Thu Jul 27th, 2017 01:27


I wonder if Dr D gave some credit to Dr M.

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 Posted: Thu Jul 27th, 2017 02:38


I ordered the book....I'll let you know.

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