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Article:
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/04/curing-disease-not-a-sustainable-business-model-goldman-sachs-analysts-say/

I am often asked why I think many published papers are 'ridiculous over-reaching.' At least now TPTB are being honest about why so many papers keep promising scientific breakthrough after breakthrough, even though very few actually materialize as being useful for treating patients...


Congrats to Beth Mole, PhD, who wrote, and managed to get this expose published:


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That is pretty much common opinion among sick people these days. Healthy folks dont believe it, unless they experience it.



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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/atyr-pharma-hong-kong-subsidiary-113000215.html
Stock LIFE announces  pulmonary sarcoidosis  great  news ! up 84% today to $10 a share.

Last edited on Mon Sep 13th, 2021 21:53 by chess843



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chess843 wrote: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/atyr-pharma-hong-kong-subsidiary-113000215.html
Stock LIFE announces  pulmonary sarcoidosis  great  news ! up 84% today to $10 a share.

The questions in my mind following reading this PR were
1. Why did they test patients on steroid therapy, and not clean controls?
2. If 6 months of intravenous administration did not cure/modify the underlying disease, how long do they expect it will take? :)

But you are correct. I guess we should have floated a startup to start selling Ivermectin so we could make a killing on the stock market ..LOL..

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Dr.Marhall after being on the MP protocol for 15 years taking Benicar 4 times a day , I have recently had surgery at the Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa Fl. A left  Lung resection was performed by Dr. Fontaine. Results : a large Fungal ball in my left upper lung. I also now have  several Sarcoid lesions on my right lung . The fungus appears to be aspergillus mold.I will have another blood test on Wednesday.The  Infectious Disease Specialist has prescribed Vfend or Voriconazole)500mg daily. The side effects are terrible with light sensitivity to the highest degree.The brain fog is now worse than any time since I was diagnosed with sarcoidosis by lung biopsy in the early 1980's. The fatigue is overwhelming.The radiologist told me they thought I had a 90% chance of lung cancer but they were wrong. I am strictly following the MP protocol .I am not taking ivermectin. thank you .



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You need to read the discoveries we have made here on Ivermectin during the past year, if for no other reason that IVM has been found (in studies by other groups) useful against cancers. This drug opens up to us the ability to treat persistent viral pathogens.

IVM has been used for years to treat Morgellons, which is thought to result from the joint action of a virus and a fungus, growing and working together to cause disease...
 
I fear it will be a decade or two before Infectious Diseases specialists begin to understand what this antiviral is doing in human disease, and even longer for them to accept the reality of the human Virome...

Is Sarcodiosis the result of a viral infection? Well, it most certainly could be. The granuloma have to be caused by something too small for a pathologist to see. Only time will tell. As more and more people recover their lives we will be able to make more definitive statements, I guess...

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Prof Trevor Marshall wrote
 
I fear it will be a decade or two before Infectious Diseases specialists begin to understand what this antiviral is doing in human disease, and even longer for them to accept the reality of the human Virome...

Is this new information virus with fungus? I know somebody who cured morgellon using Ki - potasium iodide saturated solution, old drug for fungal infection called sporotrichosis

I wonder if ivermectin can work on fungus.



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My GP , Infectious Disease Specialist and three Radiologist were certain that I had lung cancer.The standard chest xray did not find anything. When I had Shingles in May the emergency room performed a ct scan on my lungs and heart.They found a 1.8cm left upper lobe lesion.This was followed up with a PET-CT scan with a tracer that displayed several lesions bilateral.
All of the hospitals in St. Lucie County Fl. are full with covid patients.I had shingles in my right eye and tumors in the lungs and an enlarged heart with new Calcified plaques.
Finally in July I had Lung Wedge Resection .. LEFT PLEURA, BIOPSY:
- Hyalinized fibrous nodule.
- Adjacent non- necrotizing granuloma.
   
B. LUNG, LEFT UPPER LOBE, WEDGE RESECTION:
: Fungus ball (fungal hyphae with septations and fungal spores) involving lung parenchyma .
- Associated granulomatous and suppurative inflammation, necrosis, giant cell reaction and microcalcifications.. - Background non-necrotizing granulomas.
- See Comment1
   
C. LYMPH NODES LEVEL 5 (FIVE), BIOPSY:
- Non-necrotizing granulomas.
- Hyalinized fibrous nodule.
- See Comment2.



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Thank you Chess for sharing your details.
In view of what Dr Marshall has posted to you… Do you mind explaining this further please? >>>

I am strictly following the MP protocol .I am not taking ivermectin. thank you.

I don't know if you have had the opportunity to to see the recent MP Information..

I will post some information here for you, in case you havent.

I have put together some information here: including some of Dr Marshall's recovery posts
Information on new AntiViral Therapy: Ivermectin etc
Watch here for Edits to Update

see Dr Marshall's Forum: https://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum43/

and there are some who post their Progress Reports at this forum..
https://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum35/

You may already know:
That: from the Main Page, you can tap the Recent Tab to see the most recent Posts.

That: Any threads that you may wish to Follow.... go to the bottom Left of the Page and click the "Watch Topic" button and you will be notified when there is a new post there since you last visited.

Let us know if you have any Questions.

Thank you Chess. Barb…



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Barb: if I had access to Ivermectin ,I would certainly take it..I was thanking Dr.Marshall for all of his wonderful help the last 15 years .  4 years ago I had very little  sarcoid symptoms
and thought I had resolution from this terrible disease.I have followed this forum for many years.I thank you also. My Primary physician believes that my sarcoid was possibly activated by mold spores inhaled when we had hurricane damage 3 years ago.The anti-fungal Vfend or Voriconazole is very expensive with the worst side effects of any medicine taken in my life.Wednesday I have blood work. I have only been using it for 2 weeks.I will post in the appropriate section .



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Thank you Chess.. :)
You may be able to gain some help here also in Sourcing Ivermectin https://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum43/17027-12.html
Let us know if we can help you in any way..
all best, Barb ...



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chess843 wrote:
Barb: if I had access to Ivermectin ,I would certainly take it..I was thanking Dr.Marshall for all of his wonderful help the last 15 years .  4 years ago I had very little  sarcoid symptoms
and thought I had resolution from this terrible disease.I have followed this forum for many years.I thank you also. My Primary physician believes that my sarcoid was possibly activated by mold spores inhaled when we had hurricane damage 3 years ago.The anti-fungal Vfend or Voriconazole is very expensive with the worst side effects of any medicine taken in my life.Wednesday I have blood work. I have only been using it for 2 weeks.I will post in the appropriate section .


You mentioned light sensitivity. I have that too, worse than most MP people seemingly. My understanding is that it's just IP from how our immune systems work (or don't), and there's no getting away from it.

However, I wanted to suggest that you might consider fenbendazole. It's an antifungal which has received some attention for anti-cancer properties (all strictly "anecdotal") but a few people here tried it last year as an alternative or adjunct to ivermectin and successfully provoked and cured IP. It is available on Amazon in a powder form from a German lab, no prescription. The price tag looks high but it works out to a low price per dose.

Here is the thread about it:

https://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum43/17048.html

I don't know if anyone's taking it anymore. I bought some, but never took it as I still get plenty of IP from ivermectin and zinc.

I am surprised you can't get ivermectin in Florida. My uncle lives in the Villages and got his prescriptions filled with no problem. I am hopeful that Gov. DeSantis will start promoting therapeutics including ivermectin soon, and thereby expose the continuing lies of the Biden admin and the bureaucratic state. (rant omitted.)

If you are open to the veterinary formulas of ivermectin, there is a sterile 1% solution (that you can take orally) which is cost effective if you get a 250ml (or larger) bottle. It's still available at feed stores but seems to be a little difficult to get online right now. Then of course there's the horse paste which most of us have been taking but is getting harder to find and has doubled in price, like lumber.

And don't forget the zinc!



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They are desperately trying to stop people from using Ivermectin horse-paste, the most popular form:

https://abc13.com/ivermectin-horse-medicine-covid-treatments/10975483/

The problem is that it does such a good job, rendering 'vaccines' totally unnecessary, and ruining the PhRMA income flow from that source. I suggest they may not be too happy with reports that Ivermectin (and perhaps Fenbendazole) is useful in some cancers. Medicine makes big money from cancer chemo...

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As always, take care with new meds. Fenbendazole gave me really strong IP with the first doses. It seems to attack the arthritis in a different way than ivermectin, and attacks some gut troubles that ivermectin doesn't do much with.

It does get better.



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Thanks for that, Chris. I have only used Ivermectin, but the original post mentioned Fenbendazole. I should have focused on the Ivermectin...

Note that the FBZ dose is much higher than the Ivermectin dose, it is a less-highly-targeted drug (not a good thing).


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Re Fenbendazole (FBZ)
I use it as well as IVM.
Just a personal choice “to make sure” re sunspots etc.
On a regular bowel med regimen to keep it all going. is essential for me with the IVM & FBZ.



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This is the first that I've heard Fenbendazole mentioned. Is it also thought to have anti-viral effects useful against RNA viruses? Is it odd that all these anti-parasitic drugs also have anti-viral properties or is there a scientific rationale for it?

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My thinking was that these parasites need to greatly suppress the immune system to survive in the host and that viruses excel at suppressing the host immune system. So if the parasite harbored viruses and also bacteria that would infect the host and suppress the host immune system, then the parasite would be successful in surviving.

These anti parasitic drugs being good at blocking the viral suppression of the host immune system would therefore re-enable the host immune system to become active again. Once active, the host immune system would be able to attack the parasite.

At least that is one possibility.



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I posted a paper in April last year that gave the exact mechanism for Ivermectin

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.antiviral.2020.104787

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FBZ dosing - I've seen numbers from 40 to 50 mg/kg. for a 77 kg man, that's 3000 to 3800mg.

But what I do is just put my hand over the top, tip the bottle so I get a circle of the white liquid on my palm, and the wipe that on the arthritic joints.

Playing around today, I found that to be about .4g, and a quarter teaspoon is 1.5 ml and about 1.4g. The bottle says 100mg/ml so a single spot on the palm is 40mg. I've done up to 160, and found intolerable herx. I've had worse, but there's no sense in that kind of discomfort anymore, if there ever was.

I think the heavy dosing works in livestock because they get it every year and don't build up the parasite load.

This may be narrow spectrum, but whatever it kills, I have.

The rectal fissure herx is gone. Big deal in my book.



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